Death bed visions - page 7

Hello everybody. I can not think of a better place to ask this questions other than a forum full of what I believe to be Gods angels in human form. In your experience taking care of the injured... Read More

  1. by   redding-er-rn
    I agree with you completely. I see a lot of death and I believe you can tell where someone is headed based on their dying experience.
  2. by   martinb216
    Many years ago I worked in a nursing home caring for a lady who was dying. About an hour before she died she looked terrified and kept pointing to a corner of the room but would not tell us what she saw. She insisted that her daughter[who was with her] hold up a picture of the Pope before her face. This settled her and she passed away peacefully
  3. by   XYnurse2B
    While alive the brain sometimes releases an overload of neurotransmitters. It's believed to cause Schizophrenia. Not many "pleasant" hallucinations associated with Schizophrenia.
  4. by   redding-er-rn
    So I guess the context of what you are saying is that all people dying and having visions have suddenly become schizophrenic? I'm not buying it but, who knows? I've seen a lot and those that don't or say they aren't having visions are very rare regardless of spirituality.
  5. by   GadgetRN71
    I don't know what to believe. Sometimes, I believe in these kind of things and other times I am very skeptical. I'd find it more convincing if the patient in question was not a believer and then experienced something. I think there may be something to the release of chemicals and such causing the visions-and if a person is religious to begin with, it makes sense they'd see angels or demons for that matter(guilt?)

    Then again, I've had some weird experiences myself so I'm not completely skeptical...maybe it's the Gemini in me. I also agree with Leslie that I think there are levels rather than straight to heaven or hell...to me, very few people are so evil that they deserve a one way ticket to the hot place. Child molesters, killers, people like Hitler ,sure, but your average person who may have made a few mistakes in life? Nah, don't think so.
  6. by   kmoonshine
    You should read the book "Final Gifts: Understanding the Special Awareness, Needs, and Communications of the Dying".
  7. by   GadgetRN71
    Quote from ingelein
    Everyone has a right to their belief system and we all need to be more sensitive to the possibility of negating anyones personal experience or belief system, I try not to do this, but alas I am still human,that is until I enter that tunnel, and hope and pray to come out at the other end in something other than the OR.
    Ha! There's a hell vision for you...you die and wake up in the OR, permanently on call!! I get a chill just thinking of it.

    To me, the scary thing is people who think they have all the answers. We've had quite a few coworkers who fail to realize that everyone's beliefs and religions(or even a lack of one) are valid. I think as professionals, we shouldn't attach our religious beliefs and values to our patients. I had a classmate in clinical that was trying to "save" her terminally ill patient. Not appropriate and the patient later confided to me(our patients shared a room) that it made him unconfortable. This student was reprimanded, as she should have been. On the flipside, I have prayed with some of my fundamentalist patients when THEY have asked me to, despite the fact that I do not share their belief system. We need to meet our patients needs when they are passing, not try to win spiritual brownie points by converting people. Sorry if I sound angry, but that poor man was having a hard time of it as it was, and now he had this student trying to convert him. Just my 2 cents, but telling a dying man you think he's going to roast in hellfire because he doesn't share your beliefs is CRUEL plain and simple.


    We have to remember, it's not all about us. Ps..ingelein, I agree with your post BTW..I am not implying that you impose your beliefs on others..I just remebered that classmate of mine and it still makes me angry. OK, off of the soapbox now!
    Last edit by GadgetRN71 on May 21, '08 : Reason: put in a disclaimer..
  8. by   HeavensNurse
    I just wanted to touch base with you about "death bed visions". I have been a hospice nurse for almost 20 years, and worked an inpatient hospice house for almost 1/2 that time, mostly on the night shift. There are no words to express what I have seen and experienced in that time. Please do not ever doubt what your patient's are going through. I have had some very unexplainable things happen where other nurses have thought they "bumped" into someone in a dying patient's room, when there was no one else there, a clinically brain dead (yes proven by tests) patient has not only climbed out of bed, but spoken to his "mother" and brushed her hair with his hand. All of this witnessed at a distance, and verified with another nurse (two different nurses in two very different circumstances). I could go on and on. Take it for what it is. Unexplainable, yet we are blessed to be able to experience it with them. Do not EVER tell these patient's or families that they are hallucinating, or that it is a chemical imbalance, or "medications". The patient who was clinically brain dead had zero meds in his body for 3 weeks. Someday, perhaps we all will go through this, and let's hope that the persons caring for us will understand and not judge us. It has nothing to do with religion, and everying to do with humanity, and the circle of life. I tell my patients and their families that just like we are waiting here for the babies that are about to be born into this world, others are waiting "on the other side" for our loved ones to cross over. God bless each and everyone of you for taking care of the people you do. If you ever lose your compassion do everyone a favor and get out of caregiving. Take care, HeavensNurse...
  9. by   Atheos
    While no one doubts that patients go through something, what exactly they go through is always open to interpretation. Also don't forget that what we perceive and experience is colored by our thoughts, experiences and beliefs.
    The thoughts the Son of Sam had are just as real as your thoughts. Everyone experiences something when they die but what it is will always be beyond our explanation. You are right that it is inexplainable and it does happen. Just be open minded enough to realize that what is happening is not what you assume it to be.

    It's not about religion or spirituality. It about personal experience and you will get your chance to find out what exactly is seen when your turn comes.
  10. by   HeavensNurse
    StanleyRW,
    I think that what you said, and what I said are very similar. Do not judge what they are going through. They are experiencing something. We may very well have the chance to go through it ourselves someday. For sure do not try to change their view or their beliefs. It is what it is... Have a good day Everyone!
  11. by   BlueRidgeHomeRN
    Quote from stanleyrw
    the thoughts the son of sam had are just as real as your thoughts. .
    quite true--but thousands of people haven't reported having the exact same thoughts.

    there is "something" that happens at death (or just missing death)that is beyond human experience, and it has been well documented to affect a change in behavior in the overwhelming majority of folks who survive, or are "sent back".:redpinkhe
  12. by   imburnedout
    Eric,
    I witnessed this many times while working as a hospice nurse. One event sticks out in my mind still today. I went out for an initial visit with a man who was dying of cancer; and it just happened that the chaplain showed up the same time I did. The patient told the chaplain that he was glad to see him and that they had a lot of work to do, quickly. I dont know what all they discussed, but from what I understand, the man did a lot of things he felt he would have to answer for once he passed. For two days before he died, he kept saying that there were demons at his bedside and that they were telling him that they were going to torture him by filling his mouth and nose with sand until he could no longer breath. When I went out to pronounce his death, he had a look of fear/terror on his face that even the best movie producer could never imitate. It gave me the willies and still does when I think about it.
  13. by   NsgChica
    Wow, this is some interesting stuff.

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