Dear preceptor - page 11
Dear preceptor.. I came to you smiling, full of energy and ready to tackle the last leg of my orientation journey, with your guidance of course. I haven't really gotten any inclination on where that... Read More
Jan 30, '10 by dj973Wow. I am really sorry you got stuck with suck a jerk for a preceptor. My first preceptor was a bully as well who enjoyed demeaning me. It took me a while to rebuild my self confidence as a nurse. After five years though I've learned a thing or two about dealing with work place bullies. If this person continues to harrass you when you are off on orientation call them out. Ask them: "Have I done something to personally offend because at the moment you are being very hostile with me." Usually people are so suprise and embaressd that they back off.
Your preceptor should not have been scratching our your documentation either. That sounds quasy illegal. She is altering another nurses docmentation. Even though you are on oreintation you are still a licensed nurse. As a preceptor I have made suggestions but I have never changed my orientees documentation.
Finally I would encourage you to become a preceptor yourself so you can mentor new employees in a positive light.Last edit by dj973 on Jan 30, '10
Feb 1, '10 by blessings2nursesI agree with the many other nurses who are appalled at this behavior. If there can be good from this experience may one thing be that you will remember and never treat a new nurse like this. Be the nurse you know you can be!
"Attitude is Altitude!"
Feb 3, '10 by DeLana_RNAh, I feel (a little) better now. I thought I was unique in that I did not have a single good preceptor in my- all of them had one or more serious problems, including the following:
- Talking about the orientee's many shortcomings, real or imagined, at the nurses' station, in front of patients, doctors, etc.
- Asking whether the orientee was "on medication" because she did not learn to set up a complicated piece of equipment (which the "preceptor" had worked with for 15 years) as quickly and efficiently as the "preceptor"
- Asking whether the orientee had memory problems if she dared ask the same question twice (about some paperwork that had not been encountered in several weeks)
- "Orienting" three or four new grads at the same time (i.e., basically throwing them to the wolves)
- Negative feedback, berating, putting down, chastising... you get the idea
- When the orientee had a really good day, saying "today was a little better" (i.e, rarely if ever praising)
- Threatening to time the orientee, who was new in a dialysis clinic where "speed" is everything to most of the nurses and other personnel, with an egg timer ("You're so slow!")
- More verbal abuse, belittling, put downs, etc. etc. (Yes, nurses DO eat their young and their own; still today)
- Not being a mentor, but a TORmentor
OK, vent over. I will survive this current orientation period - and swear to never, ever be a preceptor like the ones I have suffered under.
DeLanaLast edit by DeLana_RN on Feb 3, '10
Feb 3, '10 by Ivanna_NurseTo all of you who read this post, commented and offered advice and experience, thanks! I never in a million years thought that my misery would provide such a good read. With that being said, I'm cut loose and free, and I do my own thing. Things are looking good! To all of you who struggle with the same, you'll make it. Spread your wings and fly. Cheers, Ivanna
Feb 3, '10 by billyboblewisSounds like you got a preceptor who was to excuse the condition, a 'dick'. I have precepted at different times in my career and actually took classes for it. One of the best things about being a preceptor is that you can actually chill while the nurse you are with does most of the work. You are there to guide and lead, answer questions and assure that the quality of pt care is not disrupted. Sounds like you just got someone weird..sorry about that and know that it will be over soon and if it doesnt work out just move on with your life.
Feb 3, '10 by SmilingBluEyesKeep this letter and re-read it every time you called to precept a new nurse/Orientee. I am so sorry this happened to you.
Feb 5, '10 by Chanta2I also have had preceptors from hell. I counted 20 preceptors in a 3 month period for me. I can recall my supervisor told a nurse to watch me closely. She was so close to me I smelled her private parts! I told her to give me my personal space! She refused to move, I was flushing a pt. or some procedure she just refused to move away. I stood my ground and told her to "MOVE!" I hated that job! The money was great; but I had those awful witch nurses flying over me everyday! That job caused me to have bladder problems. I resigned.
My other friend nurse was also being harassed and bullied. Her blood pressure use to go up so high to the point she was close to having a stroke. She also quit. She and I quit because these nurses were so hateful and mean! I have been LPN for awhile, but these nurses felt nursing home nurses were dummies.
I cannot begin to explain the grief we endured.
I had 20 preceptors! I will end this story. It is causing me grief all over.
TO ALL PRECEPTORS WHO CAUSED YOUR SISTER NURSES GRIEF, SHAME ON YOU!
(OH, no more bladder issues.)
Feb 5, '10 by Chanta2It is hard to keep your chin up when you are getting beat up at work from women who you thought were nurses just like you. The nurses work environment is full of bullies, and demeaning women.
Feb 9, '10 by kainu2Thank you for sharing. I have an instructor with all the same smug, belittling, hatred for humanity. And to think she's a home health director; some people just don't know when to retire. Desperation & false modesty are so ugly, esp. at the expense of others.
Feb 9, '10 by SweetDreamsRNI wish I had known then (when I started out as a new RN) what I know now.And that is to set a very high standard for your own behavior and your clinical skills. I can not emphasize enough that what I found in my clinical experiences was that for every "Old War Horse Blood Thirsty Dysfunctional Nurse" there were several other medical staff in the arena who wanted to mentor guide teach and help "grow" the new RN. I learned on my very first day as a new grad who had been hired into an ICU unit that if I was going to learn to be competent that I needed to figure out who I needed to align myself with. It was NOT my mentor.She was a chain smoking shrew who had been there for like 150 years Many of the full time RN's there were rude and resentful to my face. But fortunately for me there were so many super competent Per Diem ...Part Time and Travelers there that were willing to teach me. I know I was slow and bumbling when I started there.No one comes out of nursing school experienced and seasoned as a competent RN. I stayed there for about 6 months then I moved on and obtained more diverse nursing experience in other environments.What I learned from moving around is that there will always be bitter dysfunctional mean angry nurses on duty wherever you work.But there are usually an equal amount or more of positive energetic progressive loving nurses on duty to interact with. Kill the meanies with kindness I say. And cover your bases by being ethical honest attentive to detail hard working polite neat clean reliable helpful when possible a team player flexible and have strong boundaries. I have found that being totally professional at all times is the way to survive. Consider yourself a valuable asset in the workplace. And remeber it is all being done for our patients whom rely on us so much
Feb 9, '10 by Chanta2SweetdreamsRN, so very well said, and so encouraging. Thanks for the positive message!
Feb 10, '10 by annacatIt is too bad that you had such a poor preceptor. It really dose make one feel alienated when one is so hungry to learn and gets the equivilent of diet jello for a preceptor. I had 11 preceptors some good and some bad. One things for sure, I was aware of many of the inconsistencies in following protocol between all of my precpeptors. From the good ones I took what I liked and from the bad ones I learned what not to do!
Feb 11, '10 by Liddle NoodnikThat stinks, sorry you went thru that. The closest I ever came to a "bad" preceptor was when I was led to believe by others that she would be a "bad" preceptor. She actually wasn't bad at all.
I'm glad it's over, hope you did get to learn what you DID need to learn! Good article!