Christopher Reeve--did decubiti kill him?

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several people have asked me about this since i changed my signature to say that decubiti killed him. so, i thought i would address the information...

first, as you will read below, we will never know for sure what killed christopher reeve. whether it did or didn't, even that it might have possibly been responsible for his death i think is worth emphasizing, so that it will increase folks' awareness and be more attentive. certainly, decubiti were a contributing factor, and not terribly indirectly, imo.

my editorializing:

what i found on the internet was this below, from http://www.paralysis.org, which is also on one of the reeve family sites. even in spite of what dana reeve says, i still feel the root cause was the decubiti. would he have needed the abx if he didn't have the decubiti? that is not addressed. it seems to me that she is going out of her way to make sure that people don't think it was due to poor health care (which is certainly understandable, and with which i have no argument.)

there's still something that doesn't quite make sense to me, like,

* wouldn't he have had some epi around if it was known he was "sensitive" to medication?

* how many ppl die of anaphylaxis if they are given immediate care? i don't know...anyone? anyone?

atthe time of reeve's death, i sent something to the reeve foundation asking them to help fund research on decubiti, far less glamorous, and far more needed, imo, than getting nerves to re-generate. and, i suspect, the money would go further (i.e., less money could make greater advances). and so it goes.

i guess it's my way of taking on "underdog" medical causes...

article from paralysis.org, also found on at least one reeve family/foundation site:

"skin care

the death of christopher reeve last october was attributed to heart failure due to sepsis (also known as septicemia), an infection that spreads from a specific location (such as a skin sore or bladder infection) to the blood and other organs. what exactly happened to christopher reeve isn't known and may never be; there was no autopsy. clearly, his death was related to pressure sores; at the time of his death reeve had been battling more than one skin sore. he had even experienced life-threatening sepsis just weeks before he died.

indeed, reeve died as a result of heart failure, which was included in the death certificate. there were complicating factors, however.

according to dana reeve, speaking on national television, neither a pressure sore nor infection directly precipitated reeve's coma and subsequent death. despite what was reported at the time, reeve's body almost certainly did not go into septic shock (a type of blood poisoning that can lead to organ failure and death). the most probable cause of death, dana reeve said, was a reaction to a drug reeve was given to help treat a suspected infection. he had been given the drug on previous occasions, successfully. reeve had a history of drug sensitivity. shortly after getting an injection of the drug, reeve's body went into shock (anaphylactic) resulting in coma and eventually, the shutting down of his organ systems. he never emerged from the coma and died less than 18 hours later.

dana reeve was very clear about the quality of care her husband received. she praised the medical staff and noted that their actions in the final hours were appropriate and unequivocal.

there may be lessons to be learned from the high profile life and death of christopher reeve. by all accounts reeve's final days were totally normal; he was on the road making a speech, he was busy being a moviemaker, an advocate and a dad, basically doing the things he wanted to do. he never paid heed to the actuarial life-limits placed on his type of paralysis by statisticians (11.4 years).

certainly, reeve's medical staff urged him to heed the fundamental protocol for dealing with any level of pressure sore, that is, to get out of the wheelchair and let the wounds heal up. but reeve chose to live his life fully and well and as much as possible on his own terms. he was not, as his wife explained, a man who was easily persuaded to slow down.

the primary lesson, of course, is to be especially aggressive with wounds. it may not be possible to prevent the occurrence of a pressure sore. with appropriate seating and sleeping equipment and attention to basic care, though, most people who are paralyzed can enjoy health and skin integrity for years to come.

while it may not have been a factor in reeve's death, septicemia is a real possibility if a pressure sore gets out of control. this degree of infection is generally controllable, however. "

His cause of death is an endless chicken or egg discussion.He and his family clearly had close,trusting relationships with the medical personel that cared for him and his wife has gone to great lengths to avoid placing blame for his death......That said I believe that HIS failure to comply with his treatment plan whenever he developed a pressure ulcer through the years was clearly denial on his part.His efforts to focus attention on cure instead of assistance for those living with spinal cord injury is another example of that...When I saw the video clips of him "walking" I was further convinced ..... I think he has done a diservice to victims of spinal cord injury-certainly he has helped many but many,many more are living in or near poverty without the equipment and staff he had at his disposal...We are so eager to listen and learn from any celebrity whether or not they know what they are talking about....it's sad really that many people's current events news comes from People magazine..The President (IMHO)was voted back into office by a majority of people whose political views are influenced more by the pulpit then the truth.....

I don't know enough about his history to make a judgment here but I do understand where you are coming from regarding his focus on cure rather than assistance .. . although I do remember seeing him with many paralyzed folks giving them moral support and who knows, he and his wife probably gave their time and money in this area.

Regarding the pulpit comment . .. .my pastor is careful to say that God is not affiliated with one party or the other and our pastor never tells us how to vote. :)

steph

I am sure he had the best medical care money can buy. You can only turn someone so many times. If his circulation was severely impaired you could turn him until you're blue and he would still somehow manage to get sores.

We all know quads, etc who refuse to do what's necessary to heal a pressure sore. all we can do is document document document that we tried, which is I'm sure what his primary nurse did. I'm sure she involved Dana in her persistance so Dana understood Chris' stubbornness was partly to blame in the lack of healing.

Lots of issues in his health could have contributed to his decline and eventual death so my nurse mind doubts it was 'one thing...decubiti'...but suspect it due to many contributing factors. VAP, aspiration, complications of immobility, etc.

I am sure he had the best medical care money can buy. You can only turn someone so many times. If his circulation was severely impaired you could turn him until you're blue and he would still somehow manage to get sores.

I ran into a website recently that was dedicated to preventing DVT (thanks to a post someone on this site made, mentioning the scary statistics related to DVT.) I'm wondering, does anyone know of a similar organization for prevent of decubiti?

Ummm....btw, I started this thread because of decubiti; Christopher Reeve is just the hook to reel people into a conversation they might not otherwise have. How many would even given the thread a second look if I hadn't had his name in the thread, but just, something like, preventing decubiti.

I do know of one positive effect my signature has had; one person said they would use it in teaching (and, I'm assuming, motivating) Techs to spend time on skin care. Hooray!!! When someone famous and rich suffers from something, we, at least, subliminally, know that we are not immune.

NurseFirst

I don't really understand the need to use an instigative tagline to generate controversy. I'm not surprised the OP got PM's.

The profile lists the OP as a student nurse...perhaps doing an assignment.

If so it is only fair to ask that this be announced prior to starting a thread IMO.

I don't believe a nurse necessarily 'did anything wrong' if their patients develop a decub, or falls or gets a skin tear, or dies. Ain't necessarily so and I (as a longtime nurse, not a student) resent this implication. if your instructors are teaching this they are part of a bigger problem in the profession, IMO.

A huge reason nurses leave the bedside is endless demands and liability...'if the outcome isn't perfect, obviously some nurse did something wrong.' I don't see the value in propogating this type of thinking and I won't support it on this BB.

As nurses we do what we can, the best we can, and document.

Over and out now.

Specializes in Utilization Management.
perhaps doing an assignment??

If so it is only fair to ask that you announce this before you start a thread IMO.

MM, I already posted that I asked the OP about her tagline in a different thread. Rather than veer OT, she sensibly started a new thread about it.

I had no idea that people were going to be so defensive about a common, largely preventable problem!

Specializes in Utilization Management.

I started working in this field as a nurse's aide back before the age of certification of nurse's aides. I was one of 2 aides who worked for a nursing home of 100 residents. We were taught that we were to do 3 rounds per night. No resident needed to be washed up unless the smell of ammonia was literally making our eyes water.

People went into nursing homes to die because they had no other relatives to care for them. Nursing homes were run as moneymaking opportunities for the investors. To say that the elders got poor care would be to give far too much credit to those running those nursing homes. :angryfire

I saw gangrenous wounds (and never will I forget the smell!). I remember treatments of MOM, sugar, and heat lamps, "friction" to Stage I decubs.

LPN 90, you behave as though the decub that led to Reeves' death somehow takes something away from his life. This is not true. He fought a good fight for spinal injury patients. Why is it so hard or so difficult to try to solve the problems that are presented when a patient gets a decub? Why the resistance?

Yes, there are many factors involved in treating decubs. But if you are honest, you'd have to admit--as one nurse who's been around the block, same as you--that the facilities do not encourage the use of the best techniques to treat decubs.

We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one, but I simply couldn't allow you to attack the OP for her choice of a tagline.

Specializes in Geriatrics/Oncology/Psych/College Health.

Sounds like we need to take a deep breath on this one....

I've removed some posts that were purely personal attacks (and edited some where those posts were quoted.)

I ask everyone to be mindful of the TOS.

IMO, this is a discussion about a larger, common nursing problem based on resaonable speculation about a specific well-known case.

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