Best way to ask out a patient

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Okay, I know many are about to jump on here and say, "NO!!!! DON'T DO IT!!!!" but first, hear me out.

First, let me be clear that I have NOT acted unprofessionally in any way in this situation. Now, let me give you the scenario:

I'm a 24 yo single male staff nurse in my third year. For the last 4 days, I've been caring for a 20 yo female patient with viral pneumonia. She expressed to me that she was feeling very alone because she's a college student and her parents live more than 1000 miles away and she has no family in the area.

So, naturally, I made a point as part of her care plan to visit her whenever possible so that she might not feel so alone. Well, she clearly likes to talk. I would pretty much simply say hello and ask how she's feeling and she just talks and talks, even with the pneumonia! I actually haven't disclosed a whole lot about myself, certainly no more than I would to any other patient, but in my conversations with her, it is absolutely amazing how much she and I have in common. She has the most infectious smile.

In the last two days, it's becoming apparent that she may have a similar interest in me. A couple other nurses on my wing have told me that she's been asking when I'll be around. Also yesterday she felt the need to tell me about her past relationships with guys and how they never seemed to care much about anything but themselves and how she hasn't dated anyone since last winter.... you know, the typical "Hey, I'm available, hint, hint" discussion. I'm about 80% sure that she's hoping I'll ask her out just by the hints she's dropping.

Now before I go further, let me make it known that yes, I've had several other young female patients before, a couple of whom I must admit were probably more attractive than this young lady. And yes, I know about the concept of transference. And I'm experienced enough to understand and feel the typical nurse/patient connection that develops. This isn't that.

Now, back on track. I have NEVER expressed these feelings toward her in any overt way, or even to my co-workers. I have not given her undue time that I wouldn't give to another patient. She doesn't even know for sure that I'm single, unless another nurse has told her that, which I doubt.

I've decided that if all possible, I'd like to ask this girl out AFTER she is discharged either Friday or Saturday, but I'm not sure what my options are. I could either say in my last visit with her, that it would be nice to talk to her again some time, but I don't think that's the right approach. Should I talk it over with our ethics adviser? She's very busy and that just doesn't seem like the right way to go either. Writing down her phone number from her records and calling her after discharge certainly wouldn't be ethical.

Another possibility is that I am most likely to be the one to wheel her to the exit on her discharge. Perhaps that might be the right time to speak to her briefly about possibly getting together for coffee or something, because as soon as she gets out of that chair, she's technically not my patient anymore. The last possibility is to not say anything and instead look her up at her school some time next week. That might be the best option.

I just don't want to be thinking back saying "what-if" 20 years from now. You just don't get a lot of chances at happiness and after dating plenty of girls, I just have a strong feeling she might be the one for me. Either way, I've got to find out. Thanks for reading.

Specializes in Med Surg, Ortho.

Jason,

I think you're old enough to be this girl's dad.

I'm sorry for the confusion on my age. I never posted on here before. I'm using my brother's computer and account to post. He actually is a nursing student and much older than me. I actually asked him for advice first, and he recommended posting on here. I suppose I should get my own account!

Anyway...

Okay, well, it was a much simpler situation than I thought. Her doc did discharge her this afternoon, and I did wheel her to the exit. I feel a bit exhonorated against some of the (expected) charges I've gotten on here about being wrong on this. Anyway, here's what happened:

As I loaded her on the elevator, it was just us and an older lady who was apparently a visitor. She essentially asked ME out (whew!). She said, "Here, this is for you. Don't open it until I'm gone." Then she handed me a neatly folded up note. Needless to say, I'm smiling big internally but still keeping a straight face. When we got to the exit, she stood up, shook my hand, said, "Thank you for being there for me and for all you guys do. Maybe I'll see you around."[coy smile].

I said, "That would be nice. Take care of yourself, Jenny(not her real name)."

"Okay, bye-bye." as she's walking away.

I just gave her a smile and waved. Anyway, then it was back to work for a couple hours until end of shift. I didn't open the note until I got home. Heck, I was so busy I forgot about it anyway! So, for those of you who wanted me to keep you posted, I'll divulge the contents of the note, as follows:

Dear Nurse Jason... or should I just say Jason? (not my real name, my brother's name)

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you did for me the past several days (yes, even for pounding on my back!). You're very good at your job and a good person, too. I'm usually pretty traditional and not this forward, but I get the idea that you can't be forward because of your job, so here goes. I think we need to settle once and for all who is the better guitar player! If you think you're up to it, grab your Strat and give me a ring! Oh, but you'll need this first. 123-4567 Either way, it's up to you. If I don't hear from you, then I can say that it has been good to have known you and the rest of the staff.

Very sincerely,

Jenny

I am SOOOO glad that she took it on herself to make the move. I'll probably wait about a week or so to allow a "cool-down" period, both for me and for her, then I'm planning to take her up on her challenge ;)

Thanks for the comments all. This couldn't have turned out better.

Notice I said "cute" and not "hot", this is because "cute" can describe much more than just physical attraction, I think you are getting offended for no reason... My point was, she may not want your advances and pursuing her may not be worth your license. You are obviously going to do what you want, but you came here for advice.

Like I said, you'd have to be part of the conversation, and also like I said, I'm not a newbie. It would take a pretty vindictive person to try to get someone fired for bumping into them at the DQ, and she's not that kind of person. I'm not an idiot. Besides, she made the advance anyway as my other post indicates, so it's moot. But thanks for your concern.

If you're really 24 and this post is really you, I have no problem with this. Pursuing a relationship AFTER the caregiver relationship is over is not a problem. I have also made friends with patients. It's just not a big deal. This isn't psych. Good for you! I'm glad she likes you too. :)

I am confused, in this post you say you are 24, and in a previous post, you say you are 35 and will be starting the ADN program (hopefully) Fall '08.

I'm sorry for the confusion. I never posted on here before. I'm using my brother's computer and account to post. He actually is a nursing student and much older than me. I actually asked him for advice first, and he recommended posting on here. I suppose I should get my own account!

Like I said, you'd have to be part of the conversation, and also like I said, I'm not a newbie. It would take a pretty vindictive person to try to get someone fired for bumping into them at the DQ, and she's not that kind of person. I'm not an idiot. Besides, she made the advance anyway as my other post indicates, so it's moot. But thanks for your concern.

When did I indicate you were new? And if you truly are 24, you cannot be THAT experienced... I don't know why you are getting so bent out of shape, I never indicated you are an idiot.

Yes, it would take a pretty vindictive person to get you fired for running into them at DQ, but if she felt you were a threat, that's not vindictive that's smart...

I am beginning to get the impression this whole thing is just made up, but if its not good for you and I hope it works out. If it is, again, good for you you had us all going for quite some time. Too bad for you it took so long to get the reaction you were looking for, for people to start disagreeing with you...

PS

signing up for your own account is free and will eliminate confusion over who you are/Jason is...

I don't see BossFrog as doing anything that instigated argument here.

When did I indicate you were new? And if you truly are 24, you cannot be THAT experienced... I don't know why you are getting so bent out of shape, I never indicated you are an idiot.

Yes, it would take a pretty vindictive person to get you fired for running into them at DQ, but if she felt you were a threat, that's not vindictive that's smart...

I am beginning to get the impression this whole thing is just made up, but if its not good for you and I hope it works out. If it is, again, good for you you had us all going for quite some time. Too bad for you it took so long to get the reaction you were looking for, for people to start disagreeing with you...

Wow! Lots of unprovoked venom. Now you're calling me a liar. UNREAL! Is that the kind of personal attacks to be expected around here? I never claimed you that you DID call me an idiot. I merely said that I wasn't. And there would have been NO REASON for her to think me a threat. Last I checked this is a free country and I can go to DQ whenever I want. Now, if I were to have done that, and sit where she would be sure to see me, how in heck would that be threatening???? I would have let HER approach ME, not the other way around. You just really see the worst in everyone, don't you? You seem to have the view that people are fundamentally bad. I choose to believe that most people are fundamentally GOOD.

Either way, I'm glad it turned out how it did and you're free to think whatever you want about me. You don't even know me, so who cares?

I don't see BossFrog as doing anything that instigated argument here.

Thank you. I guess I just take exception to people assuming bad things about me that they have no way of knowing. Nurse Salty was making me sound like a naive, ignorant, threatening stalker. She'll have to excuse me if I take that as an insult.

PS. I know of one nurse I work with who eventually married a former patient of hers, so it can't be that uncommon. As long as nothing is initiated while the person is a patient, what's the problem? There was NEVER anything unprofessional about my interactions with her. I think we simply both found each other be very interesting people in our conversations and that was that. And I had no way of knowing whether she thought so as well until I read her note, but my hunch was right. I guess I may have given some the impression that I was having all of these gushy feelings toward her, but that's simply not true. Heck, I'm not even sure I'm interested in her romantically at all yet, but at the least, I'm certainly glad we can have the chance to nurture a friendship, and at this point, that's all I know I'm interested in for sure.

Wow! Lots of unprovoked venom. Now you're calling me a liar. UNREAL! Is that the kind of personal attacks to be expected around here? I never claimed you that you DID call me an idiot. I merely said that I wasn't. And there would have been NO REASON for her to think me a threat. Last I checked this is a free country and I can go to DQ whenever I want. Now, if I were to have done that, and sit where she would be sure to see me, how in heck would that be threatening???? I would have let HER approach ME, not the other way around. You just really see the worst in everyone, don't you? You seem to have the view that people are fundamentally bad. I choose to believe that most people are fundamentally GOOD.

Either way, I'm glad it turned out how it did and you're free to think whatever you want about me. You don't even know me, so who cares?

No, I did not call you a liar... I said "if"... Now, this is getting out of hand, I was merely making the point that some people (read: not you) have bad intentions in mind. I have been the victim of stalking before. So yes, I am more cautious. But no, I do NOT think people are inherently bad, in fact I chose to see the good in everyone. However, you do have to earn my trust. And several things you have said have sent up a red flag of mistrust... I am happy this turned out good for you, good luck.

Thank you. I guess I just take exception to people assuming bad things about me that they have no way of knowing. Nurse Salty was making me sound like a naive, ignorant, threatening stalker. She'll have to excuse me if I take that as an insult.

I never called you a stalker... You are not a woman, you do not know the threat we face. I was merely trying to warn you this girl may be wary of you...

I never called you a stalker... You are not a woman, you do not know the threat we face. I was merely trying to warn you this girl may be wary of you...

LOL You do realize there are women stalkers as well...

ROFL!!!

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