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  1. by   a-rose
    Originally posted by dawngloves
    a-rose! I have been worried about you! Did you get my email? Tell us how you and your family are and how the medical personel in China are coping.
    And yes, I am worried about SARS. I am a little to close to Canada for my comfort and we have a couple of cases in my town already. But as of yet I am not hiding.
    Just now, I get your eamil. Thank you very much! Now my family and I are very good! There are medical persons died of SARS.
    Here is nurse, Ye xin:http://yexin.chinaspirit.net.cn/
    Last edit by a-rose on Apr 26, '03
  2. by   a-rose
    Originally posted by JMP
    I live in Ontario Canada and work in an ICU.

    I am not afraid of SARS. I go to Toronto on a regular basis and I can tell you the media reports are most definitely out of control. Hopefully things will calm down and people can see this in a more realistic light. At least in terms of North America. I do think Sars is here to stay, to some degree.

    I want to tell people again, no one is wearing masks in Toronto, unless they work in a hospital, or are lead down the garden path by the media and have been taken in by fear and ignorance. Sars is not in the community in Toronto..it remains in the health care setting.
    It is said that there many people be ill with SARS in Canada
    Why people are not wearing masks in Toronto?
  3. by   Jenny P
    Hi a-rose, glad to see you again!

    As far as SARS goes, yes, I am concerned about it to a point. Am I AFRAID of it? Not yet-- it isn't a big problem here in my part of the world. I think if I lived in Beijing and Guangdong, I would probably be frightened of it.

    One of the reasons I am concerned about it is that I am right in the middle of reading a book on the 1918 Spanish Influenza titled "Flu" by Gina Kolata. 21 MILLION people died in that pandemic; and now ChainedChaos states "that the mortality rate is 4.5%, the Spanish flu of 1918 was 2.5%". Maybe we SHOULD start being concerned about SARS!

    I started to read this book the week before SARS hit the evening news; I'm half way through it but put it down once SARS hit Toronto.

    Yes, I guess I AM afraid of SARS, come to think of it! Modern medicine gives us a very false sense of security here in the USA, I think.
  4. by   JMP
    Originally posted by a-rose
    It is said that there many people be ill with SARS in Canada
    Why people are not wearing masks in Toronto?
    There are about 210 cases in Toronto and many are suspect, ... and many are not ill, just showing symptoms of respiratory illnesses. As you know, there are no tests to confirm SARS, so contact is the big issue.

    The reason that no one (other than health care professionals) are wearing masks is this.... It is not in the community. To date there have been no cases that involve casual community contact. ALL CASES can be traced back to the orignial case ( which was a direct result of travel).

    Unless you work in an affected hospital or a SARS screening clinic or an emerg department where potential patients may present themselves there is no reason to wear a mask. Simple as that.

    Toronto is a large Canadian city but it does not represent Canada. It is like saying, New York City has a SARS case so why aren't people in Arizona wearing masks..... Canada is a large geographic area with the population of California. About 23 million people.
  5. by   fergus51
    Hey, I thought we were up to 30 million Which would still make us a small town by Chinese standards I'm sure

    JMP,
    I heard that those not in patient care areas might be able to stop wearing masks in the hospital soon.... I hope it's true. Sitting in a classroom is bad enough without a mask
  6. by   nrw350
    My dad was saying that once sars hits third-world nations that lack the health care of larger nations, that is where and when the disease will get out of hand. But how many of them travel abroad when they can not even afford food or water? I honestly do not know what to think about this "epidemic". I would like to hear more thoughts about this situation from people from around the world still.

    Thanks.
  7. by   Nurse Ratched
    I am not fearful of it, but we are definitely aware of it and have protocols in place at work for identifying possible cases.
  8. by   steven44121
    Those not in pt. care areas are already not wearing masks in Toronto Hospitals
  9. by   oramar
    I wish you guys could read this great article in The Wall Street Journal by a Donald S. Burke MD. Unfortunately it is only avaliable to those that subscribe. He says there is a chance, but only a chance, that the disease can be eradicated by next winter. He called this first visitation a HERALD visitation. He says virus outbreaks of this type usualy make a small pass in late winter early spring. The following winter they come back big time. He says if we don't stop it now the next wave will be terrible. He also mentioned the possiblity of an outbreak in third world dense populations. An outbreak of this nature would be unstopable. The good news is that it is possible to stop it in it's tracks right now. This is a quote, "For the moment, chance is on our side. But we have just six months to complete the job of the global eradication of the SARS coronavirus. Ater that, when the seasonal epidemic flares next year, it will be too late." He also mentions that the light traditional flu season has made the outbreak easier to contain. If the traditional flu has a bad outbreak next year things are going to get confused.
  10. by   nrw350
    Originally posted by oramar
    I wish you guys could read this great article in The Wall Street Journal by a Donald S. Burke MD. Unfortunately it is only avaliable to those that subscribe. He says there is a chance, but only a chance, that the disease can be eradicated by next winter. He called this first visitation a HERALD visitation. He says virus outbreaks of this type usualy make a small pass in late winter early spring. The following winter they come back big time. He says if we don't stop it now the next wave will be terrible. He also mentioned the possiblity of an outbreak in third world dense populations. An outbreak of this nature would be unstopable. The good news is that it is possible to stop it in it's tracks right now. This is a quote, "For the moment, chance is on our side. But we have just six months to complete the job of the global eradication of the SARS coronavirus. Ater that, when the seasonal epidemic flares next year, it will be too late." He also mentions that the light traditional flu season has made the outbreak easier to contain. If the traditional flu has a bad outbreak next year things are going to get confused.
    thats along the same lines as what my dad is thinking
  11. by   Jenny P
    Oramar, that is the usual pattern of all flus; and that is exactly the same pattern of the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic also.

    As with most flus, contact with it at this point would give you some sort of protection when (and IF) it returns in a more virulent form next winter.
  12. by   nrw350
    I take it Sars is still spreading of course? It seems to have left the news to some degree.
  13. by   toronto rn
    Sars is on the decrease in Toronto, with no new cases in the community. The last cases involving health care workers have passed the quarantine date with no further transmission.
    Just this week most floors of the hospital are no longer wearing masks. Areas which still have active SARS patients are continuing with isolation precautions, and all staff and visitors and patients are screened before entering the hospital. Another week or two and all the cases should be cleared. I think now there are less than 30 cases of sars in the hospitals. With 3 remaining critical.
    China remains a concern still--leaving the rest of the world on the alert, because one missed case can cause many to become ill.
    Last edit by toronto rn on May 11, '03

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