Allowing more than RN on name badge? - page 5

does your facility allow you to have designations other than rn on your name badge (such as rn, bsn/ rn, ccrn etc.)? our hospital does not allow this and it is a thorn in the side of some of the rn's... Read More

  1. by   madwife2002
    Quote from gauge14iv
    Madwife - its pretty similar here - an AD or AS degree in nursing is a 2 year degree required to obtain an RN, but by the time you take all the basic courses, apply and get in to the nursing track it usually takes most folks about 3 years. It is an additional year of pre-requisite courses and an additional year of nursing courses for a BS.

    An LPN (LVN in some states) is a 1 year program with very pre-requisite courses.

    Now throw in direct entry nursing programs, diploma programs and the multiple tracks encompassed within even the same schools and no wonder the public is confused!

    I had the pleasure of explaining to a group of high school kids not too long ago what they had to do to get into nursing - the greatest number of questions were about all the confusion in the kinds of nurses and degrees.

    Somethin's gotta give...
    Thank you for the explination it does make you head :spin:
  2. by   llg
    Quote from gauge14iv
    Now throw in direct entry nursing programs, diploma programs and the multiple tracks encompassed within even the same schools and no wonder the public is confused!

    I had the pleasure of explaining to a group of high school kids not too long ago what they had to do to get into nursing - the greatest number of questions were about all the confusion in the kinds of nurses and degrees.

    Somethin's gotta give...
    I agree with you completely. We have too many entry routes and levels. We need to simply it by reducing the number of pathways whereby one becomes a nurse. This is not because I think the graduates of any particular type of program are unworthy ... but because the mulitple pathways and degree possibilities is too confusing.

    I am furious at the leaders in the schools who keep making up new degrees and new titles -- not only at the entry level, but also at the advanced level.

    I know it seems that I have hi-jacked the thread a bit ... but it does directly relate to the original topic. Nobody knows what all those letters behind our names mean because there are too many possibilities!
    llg
  3. by   gauge14iv
    I like the 2+2 idea myself.

    A 2 year degree with a 2 year add on for a BS - optional of course, but strongly encouraged by an increase in pay that actually makes a difference. When it matters in the form of money, maybe then it will matter to the folks who say it doesn't matter

    Maybe the folks who grant magnet status ought to add that to the list - "Large pay differential for additional education" LOL
  4. by   sirI
    "the adn/bsn debate has been discussed extensively here.

    please see this thread which contains links to previous discussions and articles to assist in nursing papers: adn vs. bsn for entry level nursing

    please keep all future discussion on this thread for future students use. "


    adn vs. bsn for entry level nursing

    to repeat (reference post #20):
    please stay on-topic: allowing more than rn on name badge?

    further "entry-level" remarks will result in the closing of this thread.
  5. by   madwife2002
    Quote from siri
    "the adn/bsn debate has been discussed extensively here.

    please see this thread which contains links to previous discussions and articles to assist in nursing papers: adn vs. bsn for entry level nursing

    please keep all future discussion on this thread for future students use. "


    adn vs. bsn for entry level nursing

    to repeat (reference post #20):
    please stay on-topic: allowing more than rn on name badge?

    further "entry-level" remarks will result in the closing of this thread.
    sorry boss
  6. by   gauge14iv
    We werent comparing the two though

    It *IS* funny that some facilities try to call a nurse a nurse - even when it comes to the name badge.
  7. by   Agnus
    I am amused as many people are, that nursing is the only profession that feels it necessary to let others know that they have a bachelor degree.

    In most professions and even non professions a bachelor degree is not even entry level. I know too many people with bachelor degrees who are doing very ordinary below entry level jobs.

    It is often those who have the least to brag about that find it necessary to brag the most.

    Commonsense tells the most ignorent person that you have some sort of education that they do not. You don't have to slam it home that your degree is pretty ordinary.

    Most people with a degree have a bachelor degree.

    Besides wisdom and knowledge speak for themselves. You can have ten doctoral degrees and still be an idiot.

    I would rather people think me an idiot than to plaster it on my name badge and confirm it.

    Most people today assume nurses have at least a bachelor degree.

    Perhaps, you are trying to set yourself apart from the ADN. Then just let your practice do it for you.

    Because frankly there are pleanty of ADN grads who are better than you. I feel safe in saying this because it is a simple fact of life that there will always be those better and lesser than you and some who will be better will not have your formal education. Some who have more formal education will not be as smart, wise, knowledgable as you.

    In the US today ANYONE can get a bachelor degree.

  8. by   DaFreak71
    Quote from Agnus
    I am amused as many people are, that nursing is the only profession that feels it necessary to let others know that they have a bachelor degree.

    In most professions and even non professions a bachelor degree is not even entry level. I know too many people with bachelor degrees who are doing very ordinary below entry level jobs.

    It is often those who have the least to brag about that find it necessary to brag the most.

    Commonsense tells the most ignorent person that you have some sort of education that they do not. You don't have to slam it home that your degree is pretty ordinary.

    Most people with a degree have a bachelor degree.

    Besides wisdom and knowledge speak for themselves. You can have ten doctoral degrees and still be an idiot.

    I would rather people think me an idiot than to plaster it on my name badge and confirm it.

    Most people today assume nurses have at least a bachelor degree.

    Perhaps, you are trying to set yourself apart from the ADN. Then just let your practice do it for you.

    Because frankly there are pleanty of ADN grads who are better than you. I feel safe in saying this because it is a simple fact of life that there will always be those better and lesser than you and some who will be better will not have your formal education. Some who have more formal education will not be as smart, wise, knowledgable as you.

    In the US today ANYONE can get a bachelor degree.

    Excellent points, very well said. I am in complete agreement about the entire post. Of course feathers will be ruffled and the whole thread will probably be closed, but ya gotta love it when someone comes along and hits the nail directly on the head. If you were here with me, I'd be buying you a beer right now.
  9. by   madwife2002
    This thread was simply about asking should there be more than RN written on a name badge? IT has detiorated to a degree bashing circus in my opinion. I will discuss this with Admin and Moderators. We are not here to debate who has what qualification, and who is a better nurse.
  10. by   gauge14iv
    Quote from Agnus
    I am amused as many people are, that nursing is the only profession that feels it necessary to let others know that they have a bachelor degree.

    In most professions and even non professions a bachelor degree is not even entry level. I know too many people with bachelor degrees who are doing very ordinary below entry level jobs.

    It is often those who have the least to brag about that find it necessary to brag the most.

    Commonsense tells the most ignorent person that you have some sort of education that they do not. You don't have to slam it home that your degree is pretty ordinary.

    Most people with a degree have a bachelor degree.

    Besides wisdom and knowledge speak for themselves. You can have ten doctoral degrees and still be an idiot.

    I would rather people think me an idiot than to plaster it on my name badge and confirm it.

    Most people today assume nurses have at least a bachelor degree.

    Perhaps, you are trying to set yourself apart from the ADN. Then just let your practice do it for you.

    Because frankly there are pleanty of ADN grads who are better than you. I feel safe in saying this because it is a simple fact of life that there will always be those better and lesser than you and some who will be better will not have your formal education. Some who have more formal education will not be as smart, wise, knowledgable as you.

    In the US today ANYONE can get a bachelor degree.


    wow...I'm just speechless. how....
  11. by   P_RN
    Dear friends, let us take a cooling moment here.

    Choose your words carefully in order to convey your thoughts.

    Harsh words only let the reader know that your available vocabulary is somewhat limited in a moment of passionate debate.

    I am of the opinion that either Initial Last name, RN is sufficient. Timothy thinks first, last and titles earned.

    When you express all of your sundry ideas please take caution in the fact that we here *ARE* allnurses.

    Thank you gentle people, the best,

    P_RN
  12. by   madwife2002
    Sorry thread closed after discussion with staff

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