After Nursing: Is There Life Out There? - page 5

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I knew it was too good to last forever. Today, in a meeting with my company's regional director of operations and the corporate nurse consultant, my Executive Director and I learned that we will both probably be let go if our... Read More


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    Hey there, Viva. Have only read the first page of this thread.

    But I've reviewed a ton of your postings through the years. (No, I'm no spring chicken either.)

    And there's no question in my mind that even if the current audit turns out to be the worse in the facility's history, you're still gonna land on your feet someplace else.

    'Cause you're too sharp, too experienced and too with it.

    Might also turn out to be a blessing in disguise: The next place may be your best employer. So stay positive.

    Good luck to ya!
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    Awwww....that didn't hurt one bit. Thank you!!
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    Viva any updates on this? how are things going?
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    Quote from Liddle Noodnik
    Viva any updates on this? how are things going?
    I apologize for being remiss in checking my threads/articles.

    Things have improved rather dramatically in the past week and a half or so, I'm happy to report. The new schedule ROCKS! I got so much done last week that I was able to take on some new projects, which has already retrieved my butt from the sling it was in just a couple of weeks ago. My boss is happy again, and I even got hugs from the RDO!

    Now I've just had my first 3-day weekend and have literally enjoyed every minute. In these three days, I've actually gotten to go on a "date" with my husband, do some shopping (although it's like "HELP! I'm spending too much money and I can't stop!!"), get some yard work done, see a movie, clean up some of the clutter around the house, go to Mass, and I STILL had time to just veg in front of the computer. And I'm relaxed and rarin' to go tomorrow morning. YESSSS!!!
    Last edit by VivaLasViejas on Feb 25, '13
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    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    I apologize for being remiss in checking my threads/articles.
    dat's ok dolling... glad the new schedule is working, amen!
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    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    I apologize for being remiss in checking my threads/articles.

    Things have improved rather dramatically in the past week and a half or so, I'm happy to report. The new schedule ROCKS! I got so much done last week that I was able to take on some new projects, which has already retrieved my butt from the sling it was in just a couple of weeks ago. My boss is happy again, and I even got hugs from the RDO!

    Now I've just had my first 3-day weekend and have literally enjoyed every minute. In these three days, I've actually gotten to go on a "date" with my husband, do some shopping (although it's like "HELP! I'm spending too much money and I can't stop!!"), get some yard work done, see a movie, clean up some of the clutter around the house, go to Mass, and I STILL had time to just veg in front of the computer. And I'm relaxed and rarin' to go tomorrow morning. YESSSS!!!
    I am so happy for you!!!!!!!!!!
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    An update I wish I didn't have to share........

    Our re-survey process began at 0830 Wednesday morning, and it all went downhill from there. What we were expecting was the one surveyor who did the quickie one in January and said we just had a few more things to fix up. What we got was a team of three---one of whom is well-known to me, and when I saw her come into my building I knew we were in deep Bandini: she is a pit bull of a surveyor who nearly closed our sister facility singlehandedly two years ago (I was the one who saved that facility from a stop-placement order, as some of you may recall). And, to put it politely, it took them only ten hours to carve up our documentation and hand our butts to us......with a brand-new citation and a 'harm' tag to top it off.

    So now we get to go through this again. AGAIN. Strange, I thought it was my job to make sure that our people were doing their jobs; it never occurred to me---until it was pointed out to me today---that it was also my job to make sure that other companies were making sure THEIR people were doing THEIR jobs. I also got a verbal spanking for apparently being a poor advocate for my resident who isolates in his room because he wants to be left alone, whose son thinks he's doing OK under the circumstances and knows Dad would pitch an unholy fit if the mental-health nurse came in to evaluate him.

    I've carefully documented the conversations I've had with both of them, figuring that would suffice; but I am evidently remiss in allowing the man to live out the remainder of his days as he chooses without intervening, without forcing him to do things he doesn't want to do......and for what? So he can stick around even longer when he already feels that life has become a burden and he wants to be done? So he can regain the 40 pounds he lost in the nursing home, which he certainly doesn't need and is far more mobile without? How is that being an advocate??

    And of course, it all boils down to what TPTB demand from us---perfection---versus what we who do NOT walk on water can give, which I call "pretty-damn-close". We take good care of our residents. Everyone, including the top brass at our company, our outside home-health providers, and the residents' families, knows this. We just have trouble proving it, in no small part because the targets we're aiming at keep moving all the time.

    And yes, I'm frustrated, angry, upset, and fearful that this is indeed the final nail in the coffin. I honestly don't believe my director will survive this latest catatastrophic survey, and if he goes, I'm gone too. We've given it our best shot and then some, and we still aren't getting it done to the state's satisfaction; why ever would the company keep us on when our mistakes are drawing civil penalties that cost them money?

    I'm not going to spend the weekend stressing about it, though. Boss goes on vacation Monday and will be gone for a week, which means nobody's getting fired till at least the beginning of the following week; what happens after that is anyone's guess. But I've been thrown under the bus before with bad surveys, and I'm sure I'm not done quite yet. All I know is that I'm going to carry on just like I usually do, working on the things I can fix while trying not to drive myself bonkers over what I cannot.
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    Good luck, honeybunch. There's always appeals, and it sounds as if you'd have good grounds for one.
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    aw viva, this totally sucks for you and i'm sorry.
    i soooo agree with grntea, that you should appeal this.
    seriously, you don't have much to lose as you already fear being terminated.
    may as well go out standing up for what you believe to be true.

    i do have to ask: did you go through your job description and see if you are responsible in overlooking the other companies?
    because if it's not there, you have a strong case.
    if it is there...then no, i wouldn't appeal that part.

    however, you definitely can and should appeal the ding you got for not advocating for your resident.
    if he is oriented and verbal, why cannot he speak for himself?
    or even his son, who i am sure would advocate and defend you.
    that is just crap, that you got cited for that.
    it's this thing called "patient autonomy" that should dictate what residents want to do and what they don't want to do.
    if you can demonstrate that this resident has been invited/encouraged to socialize, then that is all you can do.
    you just cannot drag someone out against their will!
    i would definitely fight for that one, because there isn't a doubt in my mind that your residents and their families, cherish you.

    even if it takes legal representation, your career and integrity are at stake here.
    i just know if it was me and i knew from the depths of my soul that i wasn't wrong, i'd fight for myself and my truth.

    pray/meditate on it and listen to the whispers (or screams) of your heart.
    you will find your the truth is irrefutable therein.

    then let it go and let it be.
    karma saw everything that happened.

    leslie xo
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    Well, I got my arse handed to me again yesterday........emergency staff meeting, then a private discussion with my boss. He spent over an hour and a half on the phone with Corporate before the staff meeting, and it's boiled down to this---we will both be fired if we fail the next re-survey.

    From a business standpoint, I understand perfectly well what TPTB are thinking, and I don't blame them. This is part of what being in top management is about, somebody's got to fall on his/her sword, and life goes on. OTOH.......I don't have a Plan B, and I'm scared to death.

    I've NEVER not had a Plan B for what to do in case a job didn't work out. This was the one I'd planned to stay with until I was ready to leave nursing, period; I know what the economy is like, and I know what the job prospects are for a 50+ nurse with an associates degree, to say nothing of years of experience that make me expensive to hire, and medical problems that make me expensive to insure. And I'm sick of starting over again........I finally figured out why I used to job-hop, have stuck with this one through some pretty tough times, and have absolutely NO desire to leave. I am too old and too tired to keep starting over, and over, and over.

    To say the least, I am afraid........I am very afraid.
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