Accident Scenes: Do You Always Offer Assistance? - page 7
Ok, so I have read what many have felt their obligation would be on the scene of an accident, but what would you do if you caused the accident, hitting a pedestrian, country road, EMS 10 minutes or... Read More
1Oct 20, '12 by Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorQuote from JW2011We can only offer you moral and emotional support......as per the Terms of Service ....We are doing all we can in contacting people in the positions to help address the laws that need revising as well as addressing the speed limit on our rural road. It's not easy taking on DOT, as they seem very set in their ways.
Tonight there was another child hit while riding a bike in a nearby town. Don't know the circumstances yet, but it sounded bad. Some of the posts on the blog about it were unreal, people already assuming it just had to be the fault of the biker, and others wanting to know what kind of a parent would allow their child to ride a bike, as it reportedly was near dusk. Not one person asked what the driver was doing/notdoing. Don't people and drivers know that a biker, pedestrian, etc., in most states are considered "vunerable users" of a roadway, and whether or not people agree that they should be there, they do have rights!
Do you know that through my research after my son's death, I have found that 90% of the time, if a driver remains on scene they are NOT charged. What kind of a message does that send? As long as you don't run away when you have had or have caused an accident involving a "vunerable user", you won't be charged with anything??
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0Oct 20, '12 by JW2011Sorry, Esme! I thought I was just stating facts, I wasn't trying to ask legal advise, just wondered what others thought of the human circumstance in cars/drivers vs. vunerable users. I appreciate all the answers that have been given, as I think it has helped me to be more "rounded" in my thinking of how people, particularly in the medical field, might react to the scenario that was/is my life experience.
Thank you!Last edit by JW2011 on Oct 20, '12
1Oct 21, '12 by Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorNo apology, necessary....it was a gentle reminder for everyone.
0Oct 21, '12 by medic9872I was first on scene to a rollover mvc involving an SUV filled with 6 people. It happened right in front of us as we were driving to the store one afternoon. The front passenger was trapped upside down. Three children were climbing out the back window. The driver and the passenger behind him required a little assistance getting out. I am a paramedic and there wasn't much I could do. I did assist the driver out of the vehicle. He was coming out whether I helped or not so I helped him. There wasn't much I could do about his c-spine at that point. I did have another bystander yell at me that she was a nurse and that I shouldn't move the man. Well, he was already halfway out and was not going to hold still. I asked the nurse to help with the kids. The trapped passenger ended up dying. One of the kids had multiple facial fractures. The rest had minor injuries. That day I didn't even have a pair of gloves in my car. Sometimes the best you can do is gather a bit of info for the medics and help calm down those involved. That was a mess of a scene and I really felt helpless even though that's my everyday job.
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1Oct 26, '12 by CountyRatQuote from Ruas61You are right in every point that you make, Ruas61, however, I do not think fault is an issue in terms of the ethical question. If we are involved in an accident, regardless of who's fault it is, we should offer what aid we can safely and responsibly provide. And, as you point out, every accident scene does need to be assessed individually, and the healthcare provider on scene has to make a careful decission about what her ethical duties are in that specific incident. One size does not fit all.Not every accident is the motor vehicle driver's fault, bikes and pediatricians are more vulnerable but they due make errors or take actions that put them at risk for harm. Every accident site needs to be looked at individually.