Does ED have a bad rep for mean nurses?

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I was perusing the posts and this question came to mind. I have worked several different units but my short stay in the ER showed me some of the meanest, bitter, most unhappy RN's I've ever met. Most were nice to me, but a handful of the veterans were downright unwelcoming and nasty to me and more importantly, to their pts, too :(

One of the docs saw what was going on and offered advice--he told me it was b/c I was attractive. He suggested I try baking treats, being extra helpful, etc. I did all that and it seemed to make things worse. It seemed the nicer I was, the more they disliked me. Anyway--I could go on and on. It was one of the hardest experiences of my life b/c I so wanted to be accepted there, never had a problem ANYWHERE else. It was months ago but still messes with my mind.

I found the ER to be my fav work. Loved the pt population, will go back to this or another ER one day. The tele unit I transferred to seems SOOOOO much busier for me than ER. I get out late almost always, juggling so much more than any other unit I've worked on. Most of the RN's there are registry or agency, I am staff. I go home drained both emotionally and physically almost always. Just an observation. I'm not saying the floor works harder than the ED. It's just different, different degrees of busy-ness and workloads, and I wish we would all recognize this. Nursing is tough enough without us fighting each other, for any reason, period. The really great RN's, the ones who are secure with themselves and truly love what they do, are who continue to inspire me. The old dinosaur RN's, like the ED ones I referred to earlier, shouldn't be able to call the shots anymore. (They need to change jobs :)

Whew! I feel better! Just my 2 cents.

Hmmm...b/c they were ugly (and mean). lol

Enough of this crap already.

Excuse me, I was asking a legitimate question. How is that crap? Beside the attractive thing--which I could give a monkey's butt about--I really wanted to know ACTUAL facts/actions/etc. that led you to believe they were, in fact, threatened.

Judging by your reactions here, I think I can take a wild guess what the problem was.....

OK- You're excused Miss Mab. Let's see..ACTUAL facts?? As opposed to the fake ones I might try to give you? I have no reason to fabricate ANYTHING I say in here.

Let me ask you a question MM.Have you ever felt threatened by anything or anyone? Of course you have...A woman knows when she feels threatened, agree? Like most women, I have been on both sides of the fence too.

I am not talking about looks here. W/O any prior experience I ROCKED that ER--did all I could to keep a low profile to fit in, and quickly gained the respect of some of the most cynical docs/difficult patients there JUST BY working hard at what I truly love to do, treating people with decency, and simply being happy.

I'd say VERY threatening behavior for some weak/insecure individuals who like to bully.:(

Peace and love.

noelle

Specializes in mostly in the basement.

yep----mystery solved...........

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma.

I don't think anyone "ROCKS" the ER without prior ER experience in a short amount of time...maybe that attitude is actually the core of the problem

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
i don't think anyone "rocks" the er without prior er experience in a short amount of time...maybe that attitude is actually the core of the problem

that and the attitude that the er nurses were "old dinosaurs who shouldn't be allowed to call the shots anymore." nevermind that she couldn't get along with them because they were threatened by her beauty.

i think noell needs to take a good, long look at her part in her interactions in the er. but i don't think she's ready yet.

Specializes in ICU,ER.
Hey LearJet or whatever your name is...what IS your problem anyway? You sound jealous :)

Your posts here reveal why you flopped in the ER.... or with the staff at least.

The sad part is, you don't even realize what you are doing.

I wish you luck and patient co-workers.

that and the attitude that the er nurses were "old dinosaurs who shouldn't be allowed to call the shots anymore." nevermind that she couldn't get along with them because they were threatened by her beauty.

i think noell needs to take a good, long look at her part in her interactions in the er. but i don't think she's ready yet.

ruby! you're the lucky winner of my closing post-congratulations!

i refer to them as old dinosaurs b/c they are old dinosaurs ...old veterans who are so burnt out and have been doing the nursing thing for so long they act like they hate it!! the type no one likes to be around b/c of their negative vibes all day, who tries to bully new staff and even the manager--the type who complains about everything new, talks about how stupid the new med students/residents/attendings are, balks at change, tries to "play" manager when in fact they are not in a management position. rn's like this need to either quit nursing or actually do something about changing things and go into administration or something. very different from the mature nurses who i admire and look up to.

taking a look at my part in these interactions--i did nothing but treat these people with common courtesy and kindness. i held my dignity at all times, never got down to their level.

another thing ruby? try to stop fixating on my "beauty":wink2: . since when is attractiveness such a taboo subject anyway? i assumed we were all mature adults in here, and you missed my main point.

yes, i am a beautiful person, inside and out.

obviously i was too controversial to post on a site such as this, and i won't do it again. i wonder if i had stated instead that i was unnattractive, would i have garnered more support in here?? sad, sad, sad. women need to stop fighting each other...

ok-last word: mean nurses--you know who you are:nono: ! recognize yourselves, stop bullying, stop bitching -do something constructive about it. if i help one nurse from going thru what i did, well, then my job is done.

peace and love all.

noelle

Your posts here reveal why you flopped in the ER.... or with the staff at least.

The sad part is, you don't even realize what you are doing.

I wish you luck and patient co-workers.

You missed your calling. You should be practicing psychology:rolleyes:

I haven't read all the posts, but in my experience ED does have a rep for mean nurses. In fact, RN magazine had an article on it.

I haven't read all the posts, but in my experience ED does have a rep for mean nurses. In fact, RN magazine had an article on it.

Would you mind finding it and linking it? Thanks!

steph

Would you mind finding it and linking it? Thanks!

steph

I'll try to...it was a few years ago. Be right back :)

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma.
Your posts here reveal why you flopped in the ER.... or with the staff at least.

The sad part is, you don't even realize what you are doing.

I wish you luck and patient co-workers.

Exactly. Let me preface this post by saying that I am not trying to incite or belittle the OP. The best advice I can give is to stop and carefully read all these responses to the original question. The nurses on this board are generally here to support and educate others; I don't think many post with the intent to hurt feelings. That in mind, take a second look at what the experienced nurses are trying to tell you. Your posts make you seem like someone who is difficult to get along with; someone who is very resistant to criticism--although I'm sure you don't want to be thought of like that, that is how you are coming across to others here and most likely to those who worked with you in the ER. It can be very hard to hear the truth and easy to respond to those truths by becoming defensive and attacking others. If so many posters are agreeing on their opinion of you, then its time for you to take a good look in the mirror and try to understand why that is.

Think of it like this, if you took a poll about anything in the world, and you came up with 9 out of 10 people believing the same thing, you'd probably have to say there's some credibility there with the majority, right?

(I was just curious also as to how long you were in the ER?)

Halcomb,Lisa 10/31/01 (Sept.2001) Lyttle,Valerie RN, BSN, ONC,CEN. Why ED nurses have that attitude. RN Vol. 64,No.9 Pages 49-50.

Valerie had worked on a variety of different units in her 16 year career, so moving to the emergency department in 1995 was not especially noteworthy to her, until a co-worker said to her "I suppose you'll develop that ED attitude".

That ED attitude, Valerie has learned, means having a reputation for being aggressive, assertive, loud, demanding, tenacious, and bossy. ED nurses are frequently called chronic complainers and are also accused of not understanding the floors, the patients, or the families.

Although Valerie does not excuse these behaviors, she does share some reasons why ED nurses behave the way they do. Besides their ability to treat emergency trauma, they are several types of nurses in one, such as a labor/delivery nurse, pediatric nurse, geriatric nurse as well as many others. They must move among all of their duties quickly and easily, turning from a critically injured child to a patient with a sprained ankle to a cardiac patient without skipping a beat.

That's not the whole article, but it's the gist.

Personally I don't think there's an excuse for nastiness. Nurses, no matter what specialty are professionals, and should behave accordingly.

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