Miss Mab

I apologized for the tone and I won’t belabor the issue more by continuing this thread. Yes, I agree there was a communication breakdown somewhere along that chain. Whether the pt. didn’t understand her options at this point, or the surgeon didn’t get a good consent or the actual conversation between OP and her PT as none of us were there and clearly we see it differently. Yet, I think you’re also assuming facts we don’t really know and I do, though regrettably harsh, stand by my response to the facts that I have been told. When the pt stated they wished to have their ’own’ the Op responded--- "Were you made aware that without the uterus you will be unable to have children?" You’re right, I wasn’t there, but in asking for opinions I thought it was both a rather poor, not to mention inaccurate, reply to a patient clearly expressing fear. But, that’s not even the issue that troubled me. Between that conversation and then one had with supervisors and from there to multiple replies here on AN, the general attitude of acceptance and agreement to those words--- Were you made aware that without the uterus you will be unable to have children---just seemed so incredibly dated. Maybe that’s all. Hey, to each their own. I’m bowing out of the thread as I’m sure it could/will go on for days. IMO, no mention of other options between four or five discussion points in this whole saga to me did show a need for more education. Others are free to feel differently. Again, the issue isn’t really about potential costs of IVF or possible religious opposition---it was that at least 8 nurses in this vignette all seemed to believe that without a uterus you CANT have children. And that concerned me. Nobody mentioned personal wants/$$$/tactical issues. I’m comfortable w/my understanding.

wow just wow

Braniacs-- She still has her ovaries----therefore ---they can still have ' their own'. Granted, via in vitro though...w/blessed surragate. Maybe you mistook her sex question for more than she meant. She wanted to know when she could get going again. Maybe her mind just clicked over to the baby issue. Maybe SHE was testing YOUR higher education? I pray for a troll sorry---i should have said caring braniacs at least. My bad. You asked what could you have said or done better? Just not phrase an answer like this--- """Even if the patient is aware you need a uterus to concieve, they need to made aware without it they cannot have children""" You could talk about it being tougher and offer education and referral info options but maybe not so much the false stuff...

Sorry, I can't speak to the oh so sketchy behavior of your management team--that'll have to be up to you---but on the plus side you absolutely cannot be charged w/patient abandonment as you reported off on those patients you did have and hadn't accepted assignment or report of any others. No way--empty threat. Good luck. That stinks...

GET OUT ASAP! Not to be too overly dramatic or anything......BUT as if the toxicity for you there wasn't already at a critical level, the fact that your NM threw out the drug/alcohol inquiry is pretty much a flashing neon sign that the table is being set for you/your career to be the main course. I don't know what or if you did anything at all to cheese someone off but the behavior being dispkayed is no joke, especialy w/a license to protect---who cares even if you're totally blameless in the situation----RUN! That sneaky little chat is the perfect set up for further action when NM just HAS to mention along the way something like...."and this is now the second time I've had to discuss drug or alcohol impairment with so and so..." See there? They're literally being truthful and you my friend look guilty as hell. That's how these psychos play their games. Did i mention that you should get out of there?? Oh--and make sure you follow through w/the needle stick periodic checkups--even after you've left. You have to do the whole 6-8 month protocol through their Occ. health in order to keep them on the hook if something comes up down the line. good luck

Let's see.... Curious, eager rookie or opinionated, quick w/the negative assumptions vet? Tell you what, if it were my elderly mom I sure know which I'd much rather have Read much? Good luck, OP. Good advice abounds...

how many times is your post gonna change LT? Integrity first and all that.

LT---your language and understanding of reserve categories and duties are so mixed up I can't even think where to start. There are literally around 12 innaccuracies spread throughout your posts on the topic and I don't have the energy to go any further with it. Your obstinance is cringe-worthy. Look, we KNOW it can be confusing---HINT: that's whay I butted in in the first place---but don't dig your heels in and insist you know best in an area that you obviously don't. What was the point? Learn to say "I don't know." Trust me, it's liberating. Unfortunately, now all we've done is further muddied the pond. FTR, any particpating or "drilling" (weekend'er--as if)reservist has a regular plain old everyday CAC white card. All of them. Every one.....And no colors involved. No active order involved. For starters......yes PLEASE carry on all

so who has a CAC card? No colors mind you--just the white?

Weren't the CA nurses able to claim unemployment? I thought I remembered that...

OMG----maybe you just should've said "I'm talking about the IRR or inactives" when it was brought up. That was two lengthy educational posts that could have been spared. lol My intent was to understand why things were getting so mixed up as a gentle reminder that there are quite a few direct accession new reserve 46Fs heading out to COT now as well and the advice given clearly wasn't of the one size fits all 'total force' variety.

Ah, so perhaps the issue is with the casual and interchangeable use of 'active reserve' here, then in another post just calling it a "Reserve card" and now with the above clarifying of "IN-active reserve". While to those who maybe aren't so expert on all the ins and outs of the greater AF it might seem weird that those simple phrase changes could possibly make not just any but ALL the difference in the world----I'll take your word for it that you should know so I'm not sure why it was so difficult to clarify. But we're agreed, this statement you made earlier was incorrect: "When you're not active duty, but you're an officer in the Reserves, your ID card looks like the OLD ID cards did. Since you're commissioned, it's blue." Yikes. I politely suggested your ID info could be confusing to others here who have zero frame of reference because it simply wasn't accurate as it stood. No need for defensive posturing---'specially after I greased the wheels beforehand with a compliment. Sheesh...

y'all might not want to go out and buy or bring any particular backpack/carry-all as it could become a standardization issue(depending on your particular class) with the rest of your flight and it's possible they'll want all of you to purchase the exact same one once you're there.