Conservative school for DNP?

  1. 2 So, against my better judgment, I am looking at DNP programs. I don't want to make the same mistake I did in Grad School and end up in a DNP program that is 100% about underserved populations and taught with a liberal agenda. For my next educational endeavor, I simply prefer to focus on the science. If you know of a DNP program in a school that has a conservative philosophy and focuses on CPGs and the standard of care, please let me know. Thanks.
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  3. Visit  nursetim profile page
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    Good luck with that. I think higher education these days and conservatism are mutually exclusive.
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  4. Visit  ddunnrn profile page
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    I'm curious as to what exactly qualifies as a "liberal" agenda?
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  5. Visit  heron profile page
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    Or a conservative one, for that matter. Are you talking about social or fiscal "liberal agenda"?
  6. Visit  myelin profile page
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    Quote from CRF250Xpert
    So, against my better judgment, I am looking at DNP programs. I don't want to make the same mistake I did in Grad School and end up in a DNP program that is 100% about underserved populations and taught with a liberal agenda. For my next educational endeavor, I simply prefer to focus on the science. If you know of a DNP program in a school that has a conservative philosophy and focuses on CPGs and the standard of care, please let me know. Thanks.
    I seriously lol'd.
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  7. Visit  msn10 profile page
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    Since I am allergic to bees, I really should be running away from this hornet's nest, however...

    I think you will have a very hard time finding what you are looking for because schools get a great deal of funding from the government and/or grants. When those 2 entities give away money, their main priority is to give to the under-served/underprivileged populations. Furthermore, nursing schools need to practice or do clinicals in under-served areas because the wealthier community hospitals don't want students but the inner city clinics and hospitals can't pay enough to keep a full RN staff on board so they welcome us with open arms. Just like medical residents, NP students fill a need and in return - get to practice on the under-served.
    Last edit by msn10 on Mar 15, '12
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  8. Visit  LuxCalidaNP profile page
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    Wow...equating conservatism with avoiding the under-served...
    Agree with the previous posts: higher education has historically focused on issues of social engagement, contribution, and personal responsibility, ESP in the sciences, and frankly, I have only found that these values increase with position on the academic ladder. I think you'll find programs either support this science "liberal agenda" (lol), or you'd have the option of attending a religious-based programs, which A) may challenge the actual practice of science and medicine with differing ethics and B)...that often focus on working with the under-served. :P
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  9. Visit  SHGR profile page
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    Quote from CRF250Xpert
    So, against my better judgment, I am looking at DNP programs. I don't want to make the same mistake I did in Grad School and end up in a DNP program that is 100% about underserved populations and taught with a liberal agenda. For my next educational endeavor, I simply prefer to focus on the science. If you know of a DNP program in a school that has a conservative philosophy and focuses on CPGs and the standard of care, please let me know. Thanks.
    I just want to say, I work in a clinic that serves the underserved. Diabetes education is my main focus. My whole teaching program is so simple you wouldn't believe it. When I actually teach someone who knows about label reading, knows what a carbohydrate is, has the life skills to be able to articulate a symptom and understand directions, it's like I don't know what to do anymore. I really get where the OP is coming from. To be able to focus on the science without being the social worker, translator (AAVE), and advocate, would make what I do completely different. I like it. It is definitely not for everyone.
    Sorry I can't answer your question though. Try looking for schools that have you find your own preceptor in your desired area.
  10. Visit  mammac5 profile page
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    My initial thought was, also, "Good luck with that!"
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  11. Visit  BCgradnurse profile page
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    Quote from CRF250Xpert
    So, against my better judgment, I am looking at DNP programs. I don't want to make the same mistake I did in Grad School and end up in a DNP program that is 100% about underserved populations and taught with a liberal agenda. For my next educational endeavor, I simply prefer to focus on the science. If you know of a DNP program in a school that has a conservative philosophy and focuses on CPGs and the standard of care, please let me know. Thanks.
    Wow...so liberal means NOT focusing on the science??? And you only want to do clinicals with affluent, conservative patients??? Good luck to you. Maybe you should reconsider, espcially since it's against your better judgement to go back to school anyway.
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  12. Visit  mammac5 profile page
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    I'm not sure if this is what the OP meant, but I can give a bit of my own (very recent) experiences in school. We learned a LOT about underserved populations, healthcare reform, PPACA, racial healthcare disparities, community health service, volunteering, disaster services, etc. We learned NOTHING about how to deal with billing for insurance companies, how to get paid for what you do, diagnostic coding. We learned very little about procedural coding.

    For me, that was okay because I had many years working outpatient in physician practices before I went for my ANP. For many other of my peers, that wasn't so good because now they are in their first jobs and have no idea how to make themselves valuable to their employers (by getting paid appropriately for services rendered) which is bound to have a negative effect on their salary negotiations.

    I think there is great value in exposure to underserved populations and so forth; but not all of us intend to work in those type of positions and we need to be paid or we won't have jobs in the future.
  13. Visit  heron profile page
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    What I'm struggling with is understanding what the OP meant by the "liberal/conservative" agenda thing ... and interested that s/he has not returned to clarify.
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  14. Visit  JeanettePNP profile page
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    The political orientation of the school I attend means very little. Either the school offers a strong career foundation or it doesn't. Going for a more "conservative" school doesn't mean that it will do any better at preparing you for the DNP role. And as other people have said, understanding healthcare disparities and underserved populations isn't a "liberal" concern; it's a concern for all of us as we try to grapple with current healthcare realities in our country. We can't just close our eyes and pretend the poor don't exist. You can come up with liberal solutions or conservative solutions whatever that means for you, but to me it isn't "conservatism" to say "I don't want to hear nothing about no underserved populations."
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