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- Jan 27, '11 by juan de la cruzIt's worth mentioning that when votes were cast by AACN member schools regarding the transition to DNP, many of the deans from the voting institutions weren't present. Makes you wonder if these were the schools who weren't in favor of the change.Last edit by juan de la cruz on Jan 27, '11
- Jan 27, '11 by prairienpQuote from linearthinkerYale plans on a program in next 2-3 years, which would be before 2015 http://nursing.yale.edu/Academics/DNP_FAQs.htmlCan you name the colleges that have no plans for a DNP?
Actually some of the top ranked schools are not yet on board. Off the top of my head:
- Jan 27, '11 by psychonautI would pursue a DPT or PharmD before I would go on for a DNP as the degree is currently designed. Heck, I'd be tempted to put the time and $$$ into pursuing a DVM. I'm actually now in the position to see a DNP curriculum up close and personal...not for me, no way.
- Jan 29, '11 by BabyLadyQuote from BCRNAMost of the colleges that are "down" with the DNP plan have dropped the MSN programs altogether and have adopted a BSN-DNP pathway.Can you name the colleges that have no plans for a DNP? I have been looking for some like that, but haven't been able to find any. Every single one I have found has plans for a DNP. Are you saying that the MSN programs that still exist have no DNP plans? Or that just by the fact the MSN track still exists you assume they have no plans to replace it? I have reviewed probably over fifty programs in the last couple of months, and haven't found a single one without DNP plans. Thanks, I would love to find programs that aren't creating a DNP program. If all programs are creating DNP degrees, then it will be a go. I would love to find out if any school are refusing to even try to switch, that would support the theory it isn't going to happen.
However, schools such as UAB, East Carolina...are still admitting MSN students for advanced practice programs and offering a DNP program as well....keep in mind that there is NO BSN-DNP route at these schools like they are for those that dropped their Masters program.
Keep in mind that DNP programs are not new...some schools have had them for many many years.
I did not state that I had not found had no plans for DNP programs...what I was stating is that I had not found programs to where the entire structure was around BSN-DNP...b/c that would make a Masters degree worthless unless you could finish both..which is why the ones that are already set up with the 2015 plan have went to the BSN-DNP program.
- Jan 29, '11 by gettingbsn2msnNo way--become a MD or DO first. Too much school and too much money. As I am also finding out, too much fluff in the MSN.
- Jan 30, '11 by linearthinker
- Feb 1, '11 by smb84Hmm.. a couple of months ago Penn had a link on their nursing website about transitioning to DNP in spring 2012 and now I can't find the link?!
Case Western is still keeping the MSN, for now.
- Feb 5, '11 by GuineaWhy bother with a DNP? Why not go to medical school? It's almost the same length. The fourth year of medical school is mostly for interviewing.
The NP made sense for veteran nurses looking to expand their scope. The BSN-DNP track doesn't really make much sense.
- Feb 5, '11 by linearthinkerThe beauty of the current situation is that no one is being forced into an educational program they don't find value in or desire to work through. I do think that as professionals I would expect MSN prepared NPs so support their friends and colleagues in furthering their own education, even if they themselves have no such aspirations.
- Feb 10, '11 by aidenlchey all, since you all seem way more knowledgeable than me with this whole DNP thing, I have a question for you guys...
I recently decided to change career paths and have decided to pursue a second degree in nursing. I have applied to a few accelerated bsn programs and so far I've been accepted to binghamton and columbia's etp program which is basically a combined bsn+msn program. Columbia is going to cost me a fortune and the only reason why I'm considering columbia over binghamton is because I'll have the security of making the 2015 cutoff...
having said that, do you guys think it's worth going to columbia with a sticker price of $90k+ or should I just stick with binghamton (approx $20k), do the program, work a couple of years, and apply to an msn...?
any advice/opinions would be greattttlyyy appreciated!