Strike nursing - page 3

Just wanted to get some info on how some nurses only work strike positions. Are there enough out there to make a fairly routine salary? I currently work as a traveler and have thrown in a few strikes. Would like to do more,... Read More

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    And we just recently won a major victory here, too! The state tried to lay off all of our state CNAs at our home and replace them with "contract" aides who would make 8.50 an hour and no benefits!! Aides who have been like family to our residents for 20 years or more!! Most of these aides are at the top of the pay scale and are making 20.00 an hour. It's so rare to see a hardworking CNA make a living wage! Well, when management did it and sent all our aides home, guess what? The state court in Lansing decreed that the agency aides were providing substandard care (they were) and forbid us to use them. We were literally left with no CNAs! Management's emergency plan was to use us LPNs as aides and the RNs (who are NOT in the union) would pass meds. Every last LPN stood by our CNA brothers and we refused to do a single CNA assignment per our union contract. This led to a strange and delicious turn of events where the RNS acted as CNAs while we LPNs were "the nurse". Two weeks later every last state CNA was brought back at their old wage! And now the state is looking at cutting the RN manager staff as the only place they can make layoffs and still have the place be operational.

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    Take this as a clue, that the nurses, LPN and RN, need to unionize ASAP!

    It is not enough for the only CNAs to be unionized.

    Scratch the idea that it is somehow not professional to unionize. Teachers have been unionzed for years. They unionized because they wanted to protect their academic freedom to teach.

    Well folks, no one ever died because they could not do long division, or diagram a sentence. But how many patients have died and/or, had bad outcomes from deliberate short staffing in hospitals and nursing homes? The list is too long.

    Call NNOC immediateyly. Don't even give it a second thought. The job that you save may be your own!

    JMHO and my NY $0.02.
    Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
    Somewhere in the PACNW
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    Strike nurses make good money, no doubt about it. When nurses strike it is for good reasons, if your union is crappy then your result is crappy. Most times it is beneficial. I wish nurses who are AGAINST striking for pay, safe working conditions, and benefits they deserve would get down off the cross and ask themselves why hospitals who can well afford to pay them better are willing to spend so much dough on strike nurses? 40 dollars an hour and half and double time for overtime. Get a grip. They have the money to spend and other hospitals help them out, just like you have a union to back you financially if your strike lingers. I know nurses who work strikes and their money is good, but I was a nurse who stood with 864 others to unionize our hospital in 1983. The attitude of our hospital before winning our strike of 3 mo was, If you dont like it here you can leave. Afterwards was a whole new story. I stayed there 15 years. That union is still in place. It was communication workers of america, we went with them because they had big bucks and could support our fight and it worked. And the patients did not suffer and die, just so all you mother teresas and bleeding hearts dont have sleepless nights. Just because you provide a vital service does not mean you should not be compensated. Healthcare is a business, and if business was not good they would not be in it. Take off the rose colored glasses. Nursing fails one of the 10 criteria to be legitimately called a profession, and that is to be licensed and work independently. We cant hang out our shingle, we cant diagnose or endorse and sell our products like doctors do. So we are constantly tethered to other entities that enable us to practice and therefore our livlihoods are always controlled by others who want to use us but do not appreciate our value. In unity there is power, that is why I support unions. Since 1999 I have worked in southern states, and the main reason nurses dont want to unionize or strike is not out of concern for patients, but fear, fear of losing their jobs and fear of confrontation. So please stop using concern for the pts as an excuse for not standing up for yourself, because that dog just dont hunt.
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    Nursing, is unfortunately, controlled by a group of, "martyr marys", who have a pathological need to be needed, and allow themselves, and others, to be taken advantage of and walked all over.

    You are NOT a good nurse, if you allow your patients to do without necesary nursing care because you have too many patients to be responsible for.

    You are NOT a good nurses if you cannot control your profession, because of weakness, and discord within the ranks (that is encouraged by hospital administrators).

    You are NOT a good nurse if you allow members of your profession, to continously leave jobs due to unsafe staffing and working conditions, and do not take a stand to change the status quo.

    You do not have the strength of character to stand up for your profession, and do what is right and for everyone. If you do not beleive that members should be rewarded for their education and expertise, and stand up for the nursing care your patients deserve, please leave and join a convent or do missionary work. You are not doing anyone a favor by remaining in the profession.

    Most of us would like to be rewarded for our education, and expertise, like other health care professionals. Other health care professionals work to increase the status of the profession. They support the increasing the educational level of the profession, limiting the numbers entering, instead of maintaining the status quo, of low educational levels, and flooding the profession with newbies.

    Other health care professions strive to control their profession, and hold onto their professional practice. They do not allow their professional practice to be sold to the highest bidder.

    That is why nursing is seen in such a poor light, and we are not appreciated. Spare me the, "but nursing has been voted the most trusted profession for a hundred years in a row!". We are voted that, because we allow ourselves to be doomats. If we demanded staffing ratios, better pay and benefits, control of our profession, the results of the vote would be vastly different.

    JMHO and my NY $0.02.
    Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
    Somewhere in the PACNW
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    Nursing is in the state it is in because there is not enough unions to stop the outside interference- the short staffing, the unemployment in nursing, the excluding of the older nurses, the lack of decent pay for the services and responsibilities we render, the"dumbing down of our very existance, the handing over of OUR skills to UAP's which will gradually make us extinct- in some states there only has to be "ONE" RN on a floor, who do all think that RN is going to be. Some lonely little staff nurse. Heck NO! It's going to be the Unit Manager!!! They are purging themselves of all the staff nurses to have 1 big kohonna- The Unit manager, who has no experience in bedside care. The only butt they have been up is the CEO and adminstration's. The "Yes, man/woman" It's "staff nurse a cide"

    From being a union nurse for 18 years( 1985-2002) and watching our working conditions improve during that time-

    STAFFING NUMBERS observed BY MANAGEMENT according to acuity, if our census went over a certain number, we got an extra nurse, we were not scorned and,
    treated like the dirt on managment's boots, we were talked to differently, our professional opinnions mattered to our nursing managment),

    our pay increased( $12/hr- $32/hr not bad for 18 years, we had shift diffs, charge pay, weekend diff's, OT because of the staffing according to the acuity- nurses were called in to work and actually wanted to work because they wanted to help the other nurses on their unit out- there's a novel thought!!),

    our retirement benefits improve( although at that time I was still in my 30's and not caring about retirement).

    Comparing it the non union poop holes I've worked in since then:

    - the disrespect make me want to spit in their faces,

    the infighting is hell to even be able to concentrate in. No wonder so many mistakes are made and so many omissions- who can think straight with all this discord.

    CNA's performing licensed nurses tasks- check out the other thread where CNA put oxygen on a patient with out telling the nurse about the low pulse ox. The CNA's stating "do it yourself", it's become an insane assylum run by business degrees. The care is down right S****Y. Stop expounding on quality care there is none anymore.

    This customer service kiss butt crap is for the birds- I'm all for treating patients with respect and dignity no matter what but this "scripted nonsense"( ADAIT or some such rot, that you don't even get out in a resaurant much less post op throwing up all over the place) has got to go. So now we have ADAIT and crappy care!!


    I seriously don't think that there are going to be any older experienced nurse left in nursing once economically thing get just a tad better. I hear more and more each day of older experienced nurses taking non nursing courses in the community colleges to get out of nursing- I being one of them!!! And the younger nurses are getting into these courses also- so where is that leaving the care of these patient's??? "Mr CEO- don you gloves, you got work(real work) to do!!"
    Last edit by kcmylorn on Sep 7, '12
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    Never tell/force/order/extort an older experience bedside diploma RN to go back and get their BSN, they take college courses and find out other RN's are taking courses to get out of nursing and asking for suggestions on what field to go into, far away from nursing. Sleep on that all the PTB!!
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    Quote from eglide87
    Unions lost their effectiveness years ago. Someone has to care for the patients after they've been abandoned by their overly compassionate nurses who are only striking in their own best interests.
    Unions are still the best way to negotiate fair salaries, benefits and working conditions. We as nurses provide a vital service and we're entitled to all of the above. If we don't take care of ourselves first, we won't be able to care for anyone else.
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    Quote from Carlyb
    Ok, what is the alternative to strike nurses? If the nurses that are hired to take care of the patients are on strike, who do you suggest take care of the patients ? Shouldnt patient care be the top priority? Or do you think patients should be left to care for themselves during the strike? Confused here.
    If the hospital is taking the strike -- and the union -- seriously, provisions will be made for patients. Elective admissions are stopped at a certain date relative to the proposed strike, patients who can be discharged will be, and those who cannot can be transferred. And the rest will be taken care of by management. Most hospitals have a plethora of managers who hold RN licenses and are -- theoretically, of course -- capable of caring for patients. Hiring scabs indicates that the hospital isn't serious about settling a strike, or is trying to bust the union.
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    Quote from lindarn
    Take this as a clue, that the nurses, LPN and RN, need to unionize ASAP!

    It is not enough for the only CNAs to be unionized.

    Scratch the idea that it is somehow not professional to unionize. Teachers have been unionzed for years. They unionized because they wanted to protect their academic freedom to teach.

    Well folks, no one ever died because they could not do long division, or diagram a sentence. But how many patients have died and/or, had bad outcomes from deliberate short staffing in hospitals and nursing homes? The list is too long.

    Call NNOC immediateyly. Don't even give it a second thought. The job that you save may be your own!

    JMHO and my NY $0.02.
    Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
    Somewhere in the PACNW
    Lindarn,
    I've looked on the NNOC site you're referring to....evidently they don't want LPN's!....How come?
    mc3
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    Quote from Ruby Vee
    If the hospital is taking the strike -- and the union -- seriously, provisions will be made for patients. Elective admissions are stopped at a certain date relative to the proposed strike, patients who can be discharged will be, and those who cannot can be transferred. And the rest will be taken care of by management. Most hospitals have a plethora of managers who hold RN licenses and are -- theoretically, of course -- capable of caring for patients. Hiring scabs indicates that the hospital isn't serious about settling a strike, or is trying to bust the union.
    "theoretically" being the operative word...
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