Nursing Unions - page 7

I am looking for information regarding nursing unions... the advantages, disadvantages, how they work, etc. I am in my last semester of a BSN program and this info will help me to prepare for a... Read More

  1. by   herring_RN
    Quote from Onekidneynurse
    Not to mention the compensation for UNION officials.........
    I apologise. I was trying to say that nurse practitioners perform valuable work. I think most are under paid for what they do.

    To paraphrase what I think Onekidneynurse alluded to life and health are invaluable. No amount of money can truly compensate those who save lives and provide comfort.
    Thank you for what you do!
  2. by   Onekidneynurse
    Quote from herring_RN
    I apologise. I was trying to say that nurse practitioners perform valuable work. I think most are under paid for what they do.

    To paraphrase what I think Onekidneynurse alluded to life and health are invaluable. No amount of money can truly compensate those who save lives and provide comfort.
    Thank you for what you do!
    Please don't put words in my mouth. I wasn't referring to medical compnsation I was referring to what the individual feels his/her life is worth. Don't confuse the two. It's interesting that people will pay $30,000 for a new car but won't pay $50 for a life saving med. So how they seem to value the car more than their life. That was my point.
  3. by   GCTMT
    Quote from Onekidneynurse
    Please don't put words in my mouth. I wasn't referring to medical compnsation I was referring to what the individual feels his/her life is worth. Don't confuse the two. It's interesting that people will pay $30,000 for a new car but won't pay $50 for a life saving med. So how they seem to value the car more than their life. That was my point.
    Do you think there are people in this country who can afford a $30k car but can't afford a $50 medication to save their life? What's the point in having the car if you're dead?
  4. by   herring_RN
    Quote from onekidneynurse
    please don't put words in my mouth. i wasn't referring to medical compnsation i was referring to what the individual feels his/her life is worth. don't confuse the two. it's interesting that people will pay $30,000 for a new car but won't pay $50 for a life saving med. so how they seem to value the car more than their life. that was my point.
    i am very sorry!
    please accept my apology.
    i forgot which thread i was posting on.
    i was referring to this:
    [quote]
    originally posted by herring_rn
    all marked up
    do cottage hospital's charges make sense?
    wednesday, january 6, 2010
    by faith ozan

    my 24-year-old son was a patient at santa barbara cottage hospital last winter and received great care. he had complications from a dental infection and after emergency-room visits recommended by his dentist, a tooth was pulled and my son was admitted to the hospital for two nights for intravenous antibiotics. thankfully, the staff and the medicine got things under control and my son was fine. it's the bill, now, that's the problem.
    i was surprised to learn from a collection agency statement that santa barbara cottage hospital marks up the cost of common antibiotics by almost 3,000 percent, and also that they defend the charges. this is an issue for us because the main reason my son was in the hospital was for antibiotics, and because the blue shield of california policy we buy requires he pay 30 percent of approved costs after deductible....
    ...i found that one unit of ampicillin/sulbactam, for example, cost the hospital $10, but they charged my son $378; eight units cost the hospital $80, but they charged $3,024 for it. or a one-gram vancomycin injection costs the hospital $9.75 per unit, and they charged my son $387. five shots cost the hospital $48.75, but they charged my son $1,935. same with moxifloxacin iv, 400 mg: it costs the hospital $43.75, but they charge the patient $557. all together, the total hospital cost for medication for my son's entire stay (according to the abx guide) was $187.54, and the total santa barbara cottage hospital charged my son was $5,625. these are all very common antibiotics, and the markup was 2,999 percent
    http://independent.com/news/2010/jan/06/all-marked/
    quote=onekidneynurse;4058381]how much is having your son alive and healthy worth?
    link to post - Do Hospital's Charges Make Sense?, 2,999 % markup
  5. by   Onekidneynurse
    Quote from GCTMT
    Do you think there are people in this country who can afford a $30k car but can't afford a $50 medication to save their life? What's the point in having the car if you're dead?
    Yes I do. I believe that alot of middle class people aren't near as ultruistic as they'd like us to believe. I believe that many think UHC will bring down their cost of medical care. That their premiums will be lower. That drug costs will be lower or free. In many UHC countries the citizens pay little to nothing for their care. I believe Americans are gonna be in for a big shock. First of all this program won't go into effect for 4 years. But we will start paying for it immediately. What happens if you die within the next 4 years. You've paid for naught. And many are being told they can keep the insurance they have but won't have pre existing clauses and they won't be cut off if they use it. They will still have the same deductiables and co-pays.

    I believe many people who pay $30K for a car would love to have cheap drugs. Are you saying that those who pay $30k cars don't want cheap drugs? I don't think so.
  6. by   Onekidneynurse
    Quote from GCTMT
    Do you think there are people in this country who can afford a $30k car but can't afford a $50 medication to save their life? What's the point in having the car if you're dead?
    UM they bought the car without thinking forward and buying health insurance just in case. That's irresponible. And that is part of the healthcare systems problems.
  7. by   GCTMT
    ^... Who are "they" onekidney? Who are these people that purchase $30K cars but refuse to purchase $50 medication?
  8. by   Onekidneynurse
    Quote from GCTMT
    ^... Who are "they" onekidney? Who are these people that purchase $30K cars but refuse to purchase $50 medication?
    More than you know. Isnt' that why we're trying to institute UHC. There are many in this country who CHOOSE not to purchase health care insurance. Why do you suppose mandatory car insurance was instituted in many states. People were having car accidents and they weren't paying for the damages. Driving a car isn't a right it's a priviledge. And with priviledges come responsibilities. I didn't say they refuse to purchase. I said they don't like to pay for drugs. They want them for free.

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