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No. 10
from Bronx_RN
Old Feb 23, 2009, 12:22 AM

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I don't think unions are perfect but I would rather work for a unionized facility than a non-unionized one. I know that there are some really great non-union facilities out there but I think they are kind of rare. Where I work the DNS is constantly trying to make up new rules whenever she feels like it but for the most part the union usually stops her in her tracks.

I've worked in corporate jobs where we were constantly bombarded with "As of today your new job duties are _______ or we are taking away __________ benefit or the new policy is _______ effective immediately. If you don't like it and won't go with the flow then you are free to walk."

I don't like that sort of instability and while I know that sometimes unions can impede progress I prefer collective bargaining over "you have no rights peon so be glad we let your work here" autocracy. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors Emma. I know some would say move on but if you live in an area that doesn't have a lot of places to work it's not always that easy.
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No. 11
from Emma123
Old Feb 23, 2009, 07:20 AM

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Thank you for the extremely useful information.
I could probably find another job....but in all honesty, the facilities are run pretty much the same that are in my area. This is the worst (management wise) that I've come across though. ALL of the employees are opressed, not just nurses. They treat the housekeeping dept this way, as well as the central supply director. They add more and more duties to them, cut their hours, and expect these things to get done. So what do you see? You see them running nonstop, winced faces, angry, short-tempered, and tearful.

So another question I have....the union would be only for the nurses, correct? What about the CNA's?

Another question: What about LPN's? I looked up the state association online last noc and it said for "Registered Nurses". Bummer!!! I'm an LPN currently. As you know, SNF's are pretty much staffed by LPN's.

I truly do want to make a difference. I want to help. I want security not just for me, but for all of those involved here. Sure I could move on, but being an LPN makes it even harder to find work since hospitals in my area don't employ them, and the ones that do, pay very poorly and the ability to use my nursing skills is limited in that setting.

So for now it's "yes maam, please beat me down... ...yes I'll kiss your butt..... Oh, sorry. Did I miss a spot?"



Thanks for all the helpful advice. I, too, am learning a LOT from this.

Emma
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No. 12
Old Feb 23, 2009, 10:40 AM

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I am so sorry to hear that your facility is going through this. Seems there are people here that know a lot more about this than me, so I hope they chime in on this subject, but I think there are some facilities that have non-nursing unions, like teamsters or grape-pickers or whatever. Of course a union made of nurses who know nursing issues would be ideal. Too bad no-one has formed a union for long-term health care workers.
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No. 13
from nicurn001
Old Feb 23, 2009, 12:00 PM

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What you may well have to look for is one of the large unions that represent service employee's ( I will not recommend one, because I have my own prejudices , if you look at other threads I have been involved in there is one ,I and others would advise you against ) . It is for you to look into which Union would meet you needs .
As you have found RN's tend to want to belong to a Union that is also a Professional Association ,this is not just a case of RN's feeling they are special , it is because there needs / objectives differ from other healthcare workers ( this view is common internationally , I have worked outside of the USA) , due to the legal differentiation between RN's and others.

Good luck in finding what you want .
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No. 14
from K98
Old Feb 27, 2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bx_RN2B View Post
I don't think unions are perfect but I would rather work for a unionized facility than a non-unionized one. I know that there are some really great non-union facilities out there but I think they are kind of rare. Where I work the DNS is constantly trying to make up new rules whenever she feels like it but for the most part the union usually stops her in her tracks.

I've worked in corporate jobs where we were constantly bombarded with "As of today your new job duties are _______ or we are taking away __________ benefit or the new policy is _______ effective immediately. If you don't like it and won't go with the flow then you are free to walk."

I don't like that sort of instability and while I know that sometimes unions can impede progress I prefer collective bargaining over "you have no rights peon so be glad we let your work here" autocracy. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors Emma. I know some would say move on but if you live in an area that doesn't have a lot of places to work it's not always that easy.
Unions can be a good thing, just make certain you get the right union in your facility. I would NOT recommend the SEIU (just one nurse's opinion).
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No. 15
Old Feb 28, 2009, 12:48 AM

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http://www.afscme.org/workers/68.cfm is one possibility.....
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No. 16
from brocantes
Old Mar 03, 2009, 11:41 AM

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Well said! Here in Shreveport Louisiana, there are not many choices of hospitals. There are 2 major systems; one consists of 2 hospitals and the other of four. There is an all out campaign to rid the four hospital system of agency nurses. This includes working the staff nurses short-handed, dictating when vacation days may be taken, and making employees make up weekend days when they have called in sick (MD excuse or not). Of course, this can be at the whim of the Nurse manager. Many of our nurses travel to California and other states whre conditions and pay are better for contrat work. I don't believe the CNA/NNOC is active in Louisiana but perhaps now is the time. I personally know one nurse that was blackballed after a unionizing attempt here several years ago.
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No. 17
Old Mar 03, 2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by K98 View Post
Unions can be a good thing, just make certain you get the right union in your facility. I would NOT recommend the SEIU (just one nurse's opinion).
Why? What is up with them?
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No. 18
from herring_RN
Old Mar 05, 2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by K98
Unions can be a good thing, just make certain you get the right union in your facility. I would NOT recommend the SEIU (just one nurse's opinion).
Originally Posted by rabbitgirrl View Post
Why? What is up with them?
You can use the Google custom allnurses.com search to find discussions on this board about them and other unions too.

http://www.nuhw.org/

http://www.inthesetimes.com/mobile/article/seiu_split_widens/

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/03/02/18574658.php

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/02/a-majority-of-k.html

http://www.seiu-uhww.org/aboutuhw/warning-dont-sign-away-your-contrac.html?gclid=CK-K8KLHjJkCFSMSagodViRHmg

http://www.entrepreneur.com/localnews/1772005.html

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/03/02/daily62.html

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/26/BUD6165RR9.DTL
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No. 19
Old Apr 08, 2009, 10:57 AM

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OMG...........go back to rabbitgirls first posting..........Unfortunately, I took the hit when the only hospital in town tried to organize........still feeling the regrets almost 5 yrs later. I had worked there for more than 20 years.
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