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- by aukewus Dec 20, '09I was hoping to get some feedback from CRNAs out there about the future of the nurse anesthesia profession. I have talked to a few SRNA and some docs who feel that soon the field of nurse anesthesia is going to be saturated and there wont be many jobs. I am starting anesthesia school this year and am wondering about job opportunities when I graduate. On the other hand, I also hear that most CRNAs are reaching retirement age so new CRNAs will be needed, and if a healthcare reform bill ever gets passed, CRNAs are less expensive and there will be additional 40 million people who didnt have health insurance that might now be having elective surgeries when before it wasnt an option. Any thoughts on all this? Also, what do hospitals look for when hiring new graduate CRNAs? How do you stand out from other SRNAs during school? Thanks!
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- Dec 20, '09 by studentnurse2175I would love an answer to these questions also. In addition to the afore mentioned questions, I would also like to add: I've heard that health care reform will reduce the salary for doctors. Will it also reduce the salary for CRNA's
- Dec 20, '09 by RB2000I would say don't worry about it. This may come off the wrong way, and it isn't meant to be offensive to anyone. The truth of the matter is that most of the people that want to become a CRNA will not attain that goal.
I am not saying that you cannot or will not make it. What I am saying is there are a lot of people that think they "want" to be a CRNA, but do not realize the amount of work, time, money, and self-sacrifice that is required to accomplish this goal.
Many see the $$$ that is possible and they want that. Many have seen the $$$ that a athlete, or a rock star make and dreamed about that as well at some point in there life. They do not think about the many long hours of school and work that have to go into it first. Additionally, they do not think about the on calls and crazy hours, and all the other joys of the job.
If this is something that you really want than go for it! Don't concern yourself with saturation, because the crowd is smaller at the summit. Few will make it to the door step of CRNA school, fewer witll get in, and even fewer will finish school. You have made it this far, so just look forward my friend. : )
- Dec 21, '09 by JenPen2332I don't have the answers for you, but I must say that it is smart for you to be looking into this. I only wish I would have been better prepared for the job shortage for RNs before I graduated this May. I've thought quite a bit about perusing CRNA in the next 5-10 years. Now I am much more hesitant after the shock of being unable to find work as a new grad for 6 months.
It's very scary to enter into such a difficult and expensive program without knowing what the job market will be like in the future. I have seen several job postings for CRNAs which all say 2 years experience, which made me wonder if the same thing that is happening with new grad RNs will also be the same case for CRNAs, if its not already.
About the statistics that speculate there are a large number of CRNAs looking to retire, this surprises me. It seems everywhere I've worked that the CRNAs are the youngest people in the room! Many seem to go back to school asap after graduating. I hope this is true...
What program did you enter? ( if you don't mind answering)
- Dec 21, '09 by RNYCCRNA admission is entirely elite...best anyone can do to attain the goal is to push their undergraduate GPA as high as humanly possible which is easier said than done. Getting a 3.8-4.0 doesn't guarantee admission either. Then, the experience, personality, and recommendations kick in. The quality of the entire application is a big deal - not just GPA. That being said I know someone admitted with a 3.3 GPA and 5 yrs cardiac ICU and they applied several times to get into a school in nyc.
- Dec 22, '09 by aukewussorry, I wasnt asking how you stand out from other anesthesia applicants. I have already been accepted. I am wondering how to stand out from other newly graduated CRNAs. What do hospitals look for when hiring one new graduate CRNA vs another?
- Dec 22, '09 by stanman1968No there will not be too many. The only thing that will happen is areas that EVERYBODY wants to live in eg large urban areas factory type of conditions (shift work, hourly pay overtime etc.etc.) will intensify. Outside of these areas all will be well.
As for an RN not finding work that would be due to an unwillingness to MOVE!!!!!
- Dec 22, '09 by loveanesthesiaQuote from aukewussorry, I wasnt asking how you stand out from other anesthesia applicants. I have already been accepted. I am wondering how to stand out from other newly graduated CRNAs. What do hospitals look for when hiring one new graduate CRNA vs another?
Behave like a professional at all times. One thing to remember is many CRNA positions are not as hospital employees, and your reputation is very important in the anesthesia community. A professional does not 'clock in, clock out' but stays until the case is done. Seek out learning opportunities, push to learn as many techniques as possible, be a hard worker, don't call in sick, accept criticism, get along with people. You've already picked your program, but a program that will provide you with a wide variety of clinical experiences will give you an advantage. If you have the opportunity to go to clinical rotations, do so. There are new grads who have done the minimum to get into a nurse anesthesia program and the minimum to complete a program and those will be the people who may struggle. Do more than the minimum.
- Dec 30, '09 by lmdscdI'll say it yes to many schools and students just look at job websites jobs are down 75% from couple years ago. Salary's are down all around me and job sites, hospitals know this too . I know some Rn's making in low 100k true travel nurse still good money for 4 years school verses 6 or 7 and soon dnpa's.I'm a crna and know with looking around if i move I'll take a pay cut. And as earlier stated don't do short cuts do all you can to look better .
- Jan 1, '10 by gluckThis thread has me wondering how important the choice of school will be in finding a work.
Actually, I probably already know what my first job will be, but what about down the road ... if I'm from a lesser ranked school, is that going to reflect badly?