CRNA frustrations

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    Anyone else out there frustrated with the politics of being a CRNA?
    I once was like many of you out there, that are aspiring CRNAs...
    I worked very hard to become a CRNA. I did it because of the courage, strength, sharp thinking and confidence a CRNA possesses. I jumped through all of the hoops to becomes a CRNA and went through all the rigorous and overwhelming training at CRNA school.
    But I just can't stand the politics. I bend over backwards for my boss. But no matter what, he continues to verbally abuse me and expects me to stand by my phone every minute of the day waiting for his call. As if I don't have a life. I can't even plan to have children, it's terrible. My husband (who is also a CRNA) tells me to quit. But there just isn't many jobs for CRNA in the state I live in. So saturated with CRNAs here.
    Anyway, I wanted to become a CRNA for a better life. Instead, I put up with this for so long and am living day to day to please my boss! Can you believe it! I'm tempted to going back to being a staff nurse or something. At least my hours will be a whole lot better and I will be covered in terms of medical/disability insurance and I could live back in the city I want to live in. Life is short.
    Any thoughts?
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    So sorry you are so frustrated. Regardless of what job you have, once its intolerable its time to move on.

    Let me move this to the CRNA forum.
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    I saw your other post, where you mentioned the politics of being a CRNA. Politics and bad managers are in every profession, I actually don't see this as a CRNA problem, but rather a job problem. You have a bully for a boss! Don't quit being a CRNA, just quit that job.
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    As the PP mentioned, this sounds like an issue with your job/boss. Perhaps it is time to move on. I understand that the job market is saturated, but it doesn't have to stop you from looking and applying to different places. If it is that bad, how about getting a travel assignment or maybe a per diem job until you find something more permanent? You shouldn't let the behavior of this boss ruin your accomplishment of becoming an CRNA. You had to work hard for that title so try to get out of the toxic environment. Good luck.
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    It sounds like your problem is the ACT model. I think you already know your choices either stick it out or move, and if you want to leave the majority of the politics behind leave the ACT practice(s).

    By the way if you aren't deeply in debt, and don't have kids then be as rude to the MDAs as they are to you. Some of these jerks won't stop until you bite back a few times.
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    Thanks guys. I have already considered changing jobs a loooong time ago. My husband has worked for this guy too, and didn't put up with it. They got into a pretty hot argument and my husband quit. This guy actually monoplized most areas in the state. So there are not much job opportunities. I've looked for jobs everywhere. Trust me, I've been through all of that. I work independently. And the jobs that are out there in my state are heavily supervised by MDAs. The good jobs are already taken. If you are a CRNA, you would know that being 100% supervised is a joke. We just bought a house, so I calculated at least a year to get back to living
    comfortable. So that was the plan to quit after a year. But, last week after that outburst with my boss, I can't take it anymore. So I am planning to do some locums and maybe traveling...
    All I'm saying is that becoming a CRNA you are trained to think for your own...just like a doctor. But unfortunately you aren't treated that way. Mostly it's at rural areas where you are treated better because MDAs aren't around. So you end up working autonomously. MDAs usually stay in areas where everyone wants to live, not at the rural areas. So in short, they live in the gorgeous areas. They will keep the CRNAs out because they feel threatened. They also know we do a better job (because we were nurses before, so we know good patient communication and care) and, most importantly, are very cost-effective. At my current job, I wouldn't request any of the MDAs to do my anesthesia. In fact, I had my husband do my anesthesia last time. If you see how they do anesthesia.... you would be scared too. The CRNAs I work with are strong.
    Last edit by BeeFlowe on Jun 29, '11
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    I think regardless of the situation you will have to stay strong. It sounds like you did A LOT of work to become a CRNA and the problem here is the boss who does not understand your true value. Some people are like that. I would plan an exit away from the boss. Obviously he is really threatened by the CRNA's, as evidenced by the way he is acting. Some people in medicine and nursing are like this. These are people who have to be bypassed. Just remember no one is better than you at what you do......
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    Sorry, but I really don't get what you expect to receive in advice here. Your problem, and forgive me for being blunt, at this point is YOU. You "considered changing jobs a loooong time ago"...but you didn't. Your husband worked for the same PITA boss...no mystery or surprise he is still a PITA. Once you decided to stay and take it, the rest is on you....you have accepted the unacceptable. Now, YOU are responsible frankly...that is your part in it.

    Tens of thousands of CRNAs are quite satisfied with their jobs and there is NO reason you cannot be one of them...and no you do not have to move to the boonies...that's nonsense. But, if nothing changes, nothing changes. You are not in some sparse opportunity profession. You are a highly trained advanced health care provider. Stop viewing yourself otherwise, get off your tukas, and get the hell out of there.
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    Quote from foraneman
    Sorry, but I really don't get what you expect to receive in advice here. Your problem, and forgive me for being blunt, at this point is YOU. You "considered changing jobs a loooong time ago"...but you didn't. Your husband worked for the same PITA boss...no mystery or surprise he is still a PITA. Once you decided to stay and take it, the rest is on you....you have accepted the unacceptable. Now, YOU are responsible frankly...that is your part in it.

    Tens of thousands of CRNAs are quite satisfied with their jobs and there is NO reason you cannot be one of them...and no you do not have to move to the boonies...that's nonsense. But, if nothing changes, nothing changes. You are not in some sparse opportunity profession. You are a highly trained advanced health care provider. Stop viewing yourself otherwise, get off your tukas, and get the hell out of there.
    I appreciate your honesty and bluntness.

    I don't have ANY problem with being a CRNA. I enjoy being a CRNA and practicing as one. In fact, aside from my boss, I get along with everyone at my job. Once again, I said it was due to the POLITICS at my job.

    And I guess I should REPEAT myself: THE STATE I live in has very limited CRNA jobs. Everyone knows everyone in the CRNA world in my state. I refuse to say which state to keep my privacy.

    I stayed to work at the job...once again...because there isn't many full time jobs out there. There are jobs, but locums or part time. I needed the full time job for the pay. My husband has been bouncing around jobs after he left. I stayed at this job for the stability in income for the both of us.

    So, again, I appreciate your reply, but please read my entry again....that it's not due to being a CRNA, it's because I don't enjoy the POLITICS.

    The reason why I mentioned going back to being a staff nurse was because it would be way much easier to find a job in any city here. I could take my pick. And yes, my current CRNA job is already in the boonies. Anyway thanks for trying to answer.
    Last edit by BeeFlowe on Jul 2, '11
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    You will have politics in any position. In EVERY position.

    Foraneman is correct, though, in that only you can change the dynamics of the situation. you cannot change your boss. Your only option is to change YOU: either your attitude or the the way you respond when your boss acts the way he does. You need to set limits or you need to find another position. Make your own position by freelancing/moonlighting.

    It won't be easy. As long as you believe you are helpless, you are helpless.
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