Quickest Way for Getting Things Done and Licensed in US - page 30

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  1. by   Nikkii
    Hi Suzanne!
    Ive been looking for info on how I should go about getting my Nursing licence. I have graduated as an RN in Finland with the title Bachelor of Nursing in 2003. I already have my Visa due to family in the U.S. Do I only need to take my NCLEX or something else as well. Im bilingual in english and finnish but in professional nursing vocabulary I fear I might have major problems. I did my studies in finnish. Will I need to take a language proficiency test?

    Thanks for your help

    Nikkii
  2. by   ninacf
    Good day everyone. Its my first post here. I should have known this helpful website a long time ago.
    I'm a Filipino nurse who was recently notified by my agency that I already have a notice of approval dated November 18, 2005. They are asking me to submit my CA BON and fingerprint form card. The problem is I'm working here in Dubai for almost 2 months now. I can send them my filled-up CA BON application but the fingerprinting has to be done at NBI Manila office, which is impossible unless I resign from the hospital that hired me and immediately head back home. Can I just be fingerprinted at the US or Philippine embassy here in Dubai and I will send the form to the Philippines to be submitted to the NBI by an authorised representative? Or are there any other ways to which I can accomplish the fingerprinting requirements? Thanks in advance.
    Last edit by ninacf on Dec 12, '05
  3. by   suzanne4
    Quote from Nikkii
    Hi Suzanne!
    Ive been looking for info on how I should go about getting my Nursing licence. I have graduated as an RN in Finland with the title Bachelor of Nursing in 2003. I already have my Visa due to family in the U.S. Do I only need to take my NCLEX or something else as well. Im bilingual in english and finnish but in professional nursing vocabulary I fear I might have major problems. I did my studies in finnish. Will I need to take a language proficiency test?

    Thanks for your help

    Nikkii
    If you have a green card already, then you only need to do the NCLEX exam. You will not be required to take the English exams for the visa, however, depending on the state, some do have English requirements for licensure, if one of those, then yes, you will be required to pass in order to qualify for the license.
  4. by   suzanne4
    It will depend on the state, Michigan will require you to have the CGFNS exam as well in order to get a license. Not sure which state that you are in.
  5. by   suzanne4
    Quote from ninacf
    Good day everyone. Its my first post here. I should have known this helpful website a long time ago.
    I'm a Filipino nurse who was recently notified by my agency that I already have a notice of approval dated November 18, 2005. They are asking me to submit my CA BON and fingerprint form card. The problem is I'm working here in Dubai for almost 2 months now. I can send them my filled-up CA BON application but the fingerprinting has to be done at NBI Manila office, which is impossible unless I resign from the hospital that hired me and immediately head back home. Can I just be fingerprinted at the US or Philippine embassy here in Dubai and I will send the form to the Philippines to be submitted to the NBI by an authorised representative? Or are there any other ways to which I can accomplish the fingerprinting requirements? Thanks in advance.
    The fingerprinting can be done at any police dept. Not sure what NBI is, but CA needs to receive the two sets of fingerprints.

    If your agency is telling you that you need to have it done inb Manila, they are giving you the wrong information.
  6. by   Tru
    Quote from suzanne4
    The fingerprinting can be done at any police dept. Not sure what NBI is, but CA needs to receive the two sets of fingerprints.

    If your agency is telling you that you need to have it done inb Manila, they are giving you the wrong information.

    NBI- National Bureau of Investigation..its like the FBI there in the states..
  7. by   ninacf
    Thank you very much Suzanne. Now I'll just ask the local police here in Dubai to have me fingerprinted. May I share with you what my agency in Manila is doing with my EB3 application. Literally they are making it quick for me to get licensed in the US. But they are still not processing my VIsascreen application. So the logic is as long as I'm not licensed as RN in the US, my immigration process can wait. This could be because a visa's validity is good for only six months and they don't want to gamble with their "investment" that I'll end up as LVN in the US. I'm planning to take the IELTS at the British embassy here in Dubai by March of next year and without VS I don't know where will my IELTS be forwarded.
  8. by   suzanne4
    The fingerprint cards for CA need to be sent directly to CA, they do not go to your NBI.

    Visa Screen Certificate just needs to be presented when you have your Embassy interview, or right before.

    But shame on your agency. That is all that I can say on the matter.
  9. by   lawrence01
    Quote from ninacf
    Good day everyone. Its my first post here. I should have known this helpful website a long time ago.
    I'm a Filipino nurse who was recently notified by my agency that I already have a notice of approval dated November 18, 2005. They are asking me to submit my CA BON and fingerprint form card. The problem is I'm working here in Dubai for almost 2 months now. I can send them my filled-up CA BON application but the fingerprinting has to be done at NBI Manila office, which is impossible unless I resign from the hospital that hired me and immediately head back home. Can I just be fingerprinted at the US or Philippine embassy here in Dubai and I will send the form to the Philippines to be submitted to the NBI by an authorised representative? Or are there any other ways to which I can accomplish the fingerprinting requirements? Thanks in advance.
    The manual fingerprint card (1 DOJ) are done in NBI for "finger-rolling" purposes only and sent to CA BON w/c in turn they will send to DOJ in Sacramento. The NBI in the Phil. doesn't do anthing with it, except for finger-rolling. The DOJ (in Sacramento)will do the backgroundchecks and the whole processing.

    Since you are in Dubai, I'm sure there's an equivalent of our NBI that can do that for you there. In the Phil. when they see that its for the U.S. DOJ or FBI they (local police) just won't do it.. they'll say right away that it has to be done by an "expert"/"master" fingerprinter located in the main NBI (in Carreido) so that every print on every finger are legible because the DOJ/FBI will just return it if was not satisfactorily done and you will have to re-do it and pay the fee again.

    I don't know about in Dubai (maybe different there). Just ask around first.
    Last edit by lawrence01 on Dec 14, '05
  10. by   pinoy_guy
    Quote from ninacf
    but they are still not processing my visascreen application. so the logic is as long as i'm not licensed as rn in the us, my immigration process can wait. this could be because a visa's validity is good for only six months and they don't want to gamble with their "investment" that i'll end up as lvn in the us..
    my friend is getting the same argument from his agency.

    in fairness though, another friend who just came back from california told me that there are more than a few filipino nurses there who got green cards on the basis of passing the cgfns exam...and could not pass the nclex. so they're now working as lpns, and getting lpn rates.

    hospitals and rns not happy with situation.

    nurses not happy coz they're getting lower pay than the rns. hospitals not happy coz they spent thousands of dollars and 2 to 3 years time to bring the nurses and their families to the us, but can not give them rn jobs coz they cannot pass the nclex. my friend said they can get a lot of black and mexican/latino (latin american?) lpns, us hospitals do not need lpns, they need rns. my friend did not pry further into the details, as it's a sensitive topic for her friends there.

    they're saying this is why us hospitals are now looking for nclex passers, coz that's a sure ball, instead of a cgfns passer only. (she said most hospitals will reimburse you the fees for the nclex exam and the review--just show them the receipts.)

    suzanne, can you confirm this?

    Quote from ninacf
    i'm planning to take the ielts at the british embassy here in dubai by march of next year and without vs i don't know where will my ielts be forwarded.
    i took the ielts without the visa screen (the courier i used lost my application & bank draft!)...when i called cgfns though, the person mentioned that even without an application & payment, if they receive a document about a person, they open a file on him/her and wait for the application and full payment. or you can request the british embassy to forward your ielts results at a later date.

    good luck on your exam!

    btw, i'm wondering how your agency can be "processing" your eb3 if you're just applying for the nclex and haven't applied for the visa screen...

    suzanne, is this possible?
  11. by   ninacf
    Quote from lawrence01
    The manual fingerprint card (1 DOJ) are done in NBI for "finger-rolling" purposes only and sent to CA BON w/c in turn they will send to DOJ in Sacramento. The NBI in the Phil. doesn't do anthing with it, except for finger-rolling. The DOJ (in Sacramento)will do the backgroundchecks and the whole processing.

    Since you are in Dubai, I'm sure there's an equivalent of our NBI that can do that for you there.
    Thanks Lawrence. I'm still feeling like a stray cat here in beautiful Dubai. I'll just ask my superiors who are under the Department of Health since they are in the government they should probably know the NBI or FBI's counterpart in UAE.
  12. by   ninacf
    Quote from pinoy_guy

    i took the ielts without the visa screen (the courier i used lost my application & bank draft!)...when i called cgfns though, the person mentioned that even without an application & payment, if they receive a document about a person, they open a file on him/her and wait for the application and full payment. or you can request the british embassy to forward your ielts results at a later date.

    good luck on your exam!
    i really appreciate your informative reply pinoy guy. thank you.

    [/quote] btw, i'm wondering how your agency can be "processing" your eb3 if you're just applying for the nclex and haven't applied for the visa screen...

    [/quote]

    that's why i've mentioned that the nclex (us license) is more important to them than the visa processing itself. i've read from many posts (many of which are from suzanne) that it takes a great time to apply for and complete the visascreen certificate. they want me to accomplish the requirements for the nclex (school credentials, fingerptinting) yet they haven't paid for my visascreen fee to start the process. there's no wonder my eb3 sched a petition will be taking longer than what should be anticipated.
  13. by   suzanne4
    Quote from lawrence01
    The manual fingerprint card (1 DOJ) are done in NBI for "finger-rolling" purposes only and sent to CA BON w/c in turn they will send to DOJ in Sacramento. The NBI in the Phil. doesn't do anthing with it, except for finger-rolling. The DOJ (in Sacramento)will do the backgroundchecks and the whole processing.

    Since you are in Dubai, I'm sure there's an equivalent of our NBI that can do that for you there. In the Phil. when they see that its for the U.S. DOJ or FBI they (local police) just won't do it.. they'll say right away that it has to be done by an "expert"/"master" fingerprinter located in the main NBI (in Carreido) so that every print on every finger are legible because the DOJ/FBI will just return it if was not satisfactorily done and you will have to re-do it and pay the fee again.

    I don't know about in Dubai (maybe different there). Just ask around first.
    That must be just an issue in the Philippines, as in every other country, you can just go to the local police department.

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