Interesting article about "diploma mills"

  1. 1 http://www.upiasia.com/Human_Rights/...for_sale/2995/

    This might cause people to get defensive, but I'm curious about the credibility of this site. Does anybody know?
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  3. Visit  mauiboy profile page
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    And your point is? I know what you're trying to imply by posting this link. You're really stirring the hornet's nest, aren't you?
  4. Visit  Nurse!Nurse!Hello? profile page
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    Quote from LatinaVNStudentRN2B
    http://www.upiasia.com/Human_Rights/...for_sale/2995/

    This might cause people to get defensive, but I'm curious about the credibility of this site. Does anybody know?
    The site is owned by UPI (United Press International).
    It is a major international news source, with the same degree of credibility as AP (Associated Press) or Reuters.
    What a scary story!
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  5. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    The native nurses need to speak out, these diploma mills decrease the value of their education. They need to hold their government's feet to the fire to verify the colleges. No one why they need help filling out the NCLEX application.
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    Quote from Alexk49
    The native nurses need to speak out, these diploma mills decrease the value of their education. They need to hold their government's feet to the fire to verify the colleges. No one why they need help filling out the NCLEX application.
    Diploma Mills are in USA as well. Really no way to regulate them. I would dare to say this is more of a issue in the USA than other countries

    People get busted and fired from jobs all the time in the USA, They have been caught using fake diplomas from Diploma Mills

    This is part of the rise of the internet.
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  7. Visit  mauiboy profile page
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    Quote from Itzallgood
    Diploma Mills are in USA as well. Really no way to regulate them. I would dare to say this is more of a issue in the USA than other countries

    People get busted and fired from jobs all the time in the USA, They have been caught using fake diplomas from Diploma Mills

    This is part of the rise of the internet.
    Thats true....

    Very scary indeed!
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    Quote from Itzallgood
    Diploma Mills are in USA as well. Really no way to regulate them. I would dare to say this is more of a issue in the USA than other countries

    People get busted and fired from jobs all the time in the USA, They have been caught using fake diplomas from Diploma Mills.
    More of an issue in the US than in other countries? Do you have a similar reference (i.e. major news organization) that supports your claim? Certainly it would be inappropriate to "dare to say" something like that without concrete evidence to back it up. Please share your source.

    I'm also interested in your claim that people in the US get fired "all the time" for using fake diplomas. Do you have a statistic that supports your claim? I've lived in the US my entire life and I have never known anyone who has been fired for using a fake diploma. Kindly share your source that this happens "all the time."


    This is a forum: a place to share information and opinions. I find it misleading, however, when people attempt to present their own opinions as fact. The original poster offered a link to a UPI news story about diploma mills in the Philippines. Subsequent posters have attempted to "turn the tables" by pointing their fingers at the US, making unsubstantiated claims that it's even more of a problem in the US. It's the same reaction that small children have when caught doing something wrong--pointing the finger at others. It's also a good example of what my Filipino co-workers refer to as "crab mentality."
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  9. Visit  Fiona59 profile page
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    I've heard of the "become an ordained Minister" and "therapist" diploma mill diplomas from the States but never a "real" degree.
  10. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    For a school of nursing to be accredited a person has to come to the school examine records and interview students. Instructors resumes have to be reviewed.

    For a college they have to have a similar accreditation program.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_accreditation

    I have heard of nurse impersonators. Never heard of a nurse from diploma mill though.

    Until foreign schools have a process similar to the USA these situations will continue.
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  12. Visit  Nurse!Nurse!Hello? profile page
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    Quote from alexk49
    i have heard of nurse impersonators. never heard of a nurse from diploma mill though.
    http://www.senate.gov.ph/press_release/2009/0604_escudero1.asp
  13. Visit  hands640 profile page
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    you can not use these fake documents anymore, even if someone buys it, agencies have their way of knowing if it's real or not. In the Phils. agencies verify the documents like license, OTR & diploma through gov't agencies like the PRC, DFA & CHED they will authenticate it and these are the requirement before applying abroad. And before hiring someone the agency will verify your certificate of employment by calling the hospital where you've previously or currently working, they will even call the supervisor or head nurse in your department.
    anyone can also verify license online by going to the professional regulation commission website. before a filipino can work abroad, they will have to undergo strict evaluation on their credentials first.
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  14. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    Thanks for the links, most were old and none mentioned any fake nurses employed. In the US, HR usually verifies your degree by requesting a transcript, I had to sign a waiver for my last job and they sent my transcript.

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