YALE GEPN 2022

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Hi everyone! Wanted to start this conversation for those who are getting ready to apply once the application opens on June 1st 2021.

I am hoping we can all share information, ask questions, and support each other throughout the exciting journey ahead!

 

I’m gay, the person I was referring to identifies as gay, and we don’t like to be called queer. You don’t get to interject on that. Also, forgive my sarcasm, but you may be surprised to learn that many people in the gay community, or queer as you like to call it, are black themselves.

I feel what is offensive about your point is that there’s an insinuation that if a Black gay person gets accepted it doesn’t count, because they’re not a regular Black person. LGBTQIA+ is a whole list, so it makes sense to not throw everyone in any of labels. Take it as educational and not a snide remark.

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7 minutes ago, Mattiebh said:

@Rubytuesday821 I really appreciate your comment about anti-Blackness. Your comment exactly addresses the concern that I have. Although homophobia is a concern, anti-Blackness and racism falls under a different umbrella and the issues about Yale came out regarding anti-Blackness not homophobia. I also don’t understand why this thread became so spicy all of a sudden. We are all students who are interested in the same program. @BrennanHealingScience The interviewer did not make a promise, but they did end the interview saying that they will see me in fall. They also mentioned that they cannot make any promises because weird things happen, but they said to expect an acceptance. I am just sharing my concerns. Also, the terms “queerness” and one describing themselves as “queer” is widely accepted in the LGBTQ+ community. Some may find it offensive, and if they do, it needs gentle correction instead of a snide response. 
 

We need to maintain this forum as a safe community. 

let’s all take it down a notch, we are interested in the same program. we should keep this offline

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22 minutes ago, Mattiebh said:

The interviewer did not make a promise, but they did end the interview saying that they will see me in fall. They also mentioned that they cannot make any promises because weird things happen, but they said to expect an acceptance. I am just sharing my concerns.

May I ask what specialty you applied to? I’ve never heard of an interviewer being so direct. I thought they had to maintain their professional poker face about all applicants. I was under the understanding they more recommend to the review committee. But if the case is they know what way things are leaning and are able to tell you something so direct, maybe my interview didn’t go as well as I thought ??

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37 minutes ago, ChemGirl said:

May I ask what specialty you applied to? I’ve never heard of an interviewer being so direct. I thought they had to maintain their professional poker face about all applicants. I was under the understanding they more recommend to the review committee. But if the case is they know what way things are leaning and are able to tell you something so direct, maybe my interview didn’t go as well as I thought ??

Ofc! DM me! I’m sure your interview went really well and it was probably just my interviewer being really blunt. 

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2 hours ago, BrennanHealingScience said:

I’m gay, the person I was referring to identifies as gay, and we don’t like to be called queer. You don’t get to interject on that. Also, forgive my sarcasm, but you may be surprised to learn that many people in the gay community, or queer as you like to call it, are black themselves.

I feel what is offensive about your point is that there’s an insinuation that if a Black gay person gets accepted it doesn’t count, because they’re not a regular Black person. LGBTQIA+ is a whole list, so it makes sense to not throw everyone in any of labels. Take it as educational and not a snide remark. 

I apologize for misunderstanding your comment and if I came across as rude in anyway! Many of my friends identify as queer and prefer to be called that over gay. I didn’t want to discount their experiences/preferences. I also don’t mean to insinuate in anyway that intersectionality cannot exist. Someone’s sexuality doesn’t make them a “regular” or “not regular person”. I also am sorry that I didn’t recognize your sarcasm… I am not neurotypical and have issues with reading people’s intentions sometimes. I would’ve send you a private message but the system wouldn’t let me  

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2 hours ago, BrennanHealingScience said:

Also, any nicknames like “gay ivy” have no place on this forum. It’s rude, inaccurate, and the opposite of inclusive. Kind of angry at that being brought up, but I’m going to disengage from this specific thread from now on. 

Hey, to clarify: I’m queer & I prefer that term because I feel it is more inclusive. Additionally, as a queer person, I was ecstatic to learn of Yale’s nickname as the gay Ivy because it made me feel like I would be comfortable and safe there ? you seem upset and I apologize to have offended you. 

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7 hours ago, BrennanHealingScience said:

I want to assert a very real point about your concerns. You said that “treatment of queer Asian-Americans does not correlate with its history of ‘anti-Blackness’.” Queer isn’t a word I used, I said gay. Just because someone is gay doesn’t mean they like being called Queer. This is good to know if you go into nursing. 

While these groups are all unfortunately separated by our language, there’s is a fundamental level (the real level) that unites. I would assert that if Yale doesn’t have a problem with a gay person who isn’t white, they will probably have similar views which correlate to other minority groups. 

I wanted to add that it is unlikely that the interviewer said, as you quote, “a really strong chance of being admitted.” That’s because it isn’t up to them alone, and they are instructed not to make promises. But on the other hand, if they did, that should reassure you that you are on the right track for YSN!

Nope, do not ever lump up the experience of POC like that. Your generalizations are harmful. Just because you have heard that Yale is supportive of the LGBTQ+ community does not mean that BIPOC students and faculty are treated the same. There have been serious concerns about racism in the college of nursing which shouldn't be taken lightly. Intersectionality is crucial to take and you should know this if you're going into nursing. 

This is a safe space for ALL people where we can learn from one another, so let's keep it that way. 

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4 hours ago, Rubytuesday821 said:

Hey, to clarify: I’m queer & I prefer that term because I feel it is more inclusive. Additionally, as a queer person, I was ecstatic to learn of Yale’s nickname as the gay Ivy because it made me feel like I would be comfortable and safe there ? you seem upset and I apologize to have offended you. 

Agreed!! I love how Yale is known as the gay Ivy! Gay is not a bad word like some have made it out to be. ?

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5 hours ago, Mattiebh said:

I apologize for misunderstanding your comment and if I came across as rude in anyway! Many of my friends identify as queer and prefer to be called that over gay. I didn’t want to discount their experiences/preferences. I also don’t mean to insinuate in anyway that intersectionality cannot exist. Someone’s sexuality doesn’t make them a “regular” or “not regular person”. I also am sorry that I didn’t recognize your sarcasm… I am not neurotypical and have issues with reading people’s intentions sometimes. I would’ve send you a private message but the system wouldn’t let me  

I have been reading through this forum since day 1 and I really don't think you should be apologizing!! ? You brought up a really important concern that we should be discussing especially since some of us may be future Yale nursing students. Also, you used the word "queer" perfectly. It is an umbrella term so generally, it's the best to use when describing the LGBTQ+. Although some have their preferences for terms used to describe themselves, I believe it's fine to use "queer" when describing the community as a whole.

I haven't heard much more discussion on how racism and discrimination are being addressed within Yale and specifically the school of nursing. My interviewer was a POC and they said they are working to diversify the students and faculty, which is important but doesn't really address the roots of the issue. 

Thanks for bringing up this topic because it is something of concern on my end and it's important to have these discussions! ☺️

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12 hours ago, juliebelle234 said:

Nope, do not ever lump up the experience of POC like that. Your generalizations are harmful. Just because you have heard that Yale is supportive of the LGBTQ+ community does not mean that BIPOC students and faculty are treated the same. There have been serious concerns about racism in the college of nursing which shouldn't be taken lightly. Intersectionality is crucial to take and you should know this if you're going into nursing. 

This is a safe space for ALL people where we can learn from one another, so let's keep it that way. 

Intersectionality is about the overlapping of disadvantages and discrimination across different minority groups. It’s not what you said.

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Hey y’all, just wanted to say a few things….first, congrats to everyone who has made it this far and best of luck in the next few weeks!!

I wanted to remind everyone that the internet is forever and we need to keep that in mind when we post things.

This is a public forum that the admissions committee, instructors, preceptors, and most importantly, FUTURE CLASSMATES all have access to, along with everyone else.

Let’s try to remember the type of person that we want to be, and the type of NP we want to become…..does arguing with someone on a forum designed to help guide each other through the admissions process align with the core values of YSN? Does it align with your personal beliefs? Does it help better anyone? Would you be comfortable with the admissions committee, or your future patients reading these discussions?

Over analyzing and combing through statements made by potential classmates does not resolve any issue, nor does it help to educate them on how/if/why what they’ve said is offensive or non-inclusive.

 It is very easy for everyone to sit here and say “as a future nurse, you should know this”….yet this mindset provides absolutely no resolution, rather it feeds into this blaming and shaming cycle. As a future nurse, and APRN, we should be working together to provide the best outcome for our patients....not arguing an online forum ? It is essential to remember that while we may disagree with each other, and our values may not align, our values will not always align with our patients either...and instead of arguing, we need to work on finding a professional way to provide education and resolve. 

Lets all reset and get back to the purpose of this forum……..

Again, Best of luck everyone. 

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I've only been on this account for 5 minutes but will this energy also be available during admit day

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