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Why are so many people today shunning real medicine, vaccines etc for hoaxes and gimmicks like essential oils, weight loss powders, etc? Any ideas why so many are turning away from actual medicine?

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
6 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:

So are astronauts just other people? How about researchers? Is a top chef like Gordon Ramsey and a waiter or waitress equivalent positions?

If all jobs are equal then why would anyone strive for greatness?

Show me where I said all jobs are equivalent. What I said is that the surgeon is part of the team, and all members of the team are equally important (I.e. the circulating nurse is as important as the scrub tech, who is as important as the anesthesiologist, who is as important as the person who does the terminal clean). Without all members of the team doing their part, there would be no surgery.

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1 minute ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:

So are astronauts just other people? How about researchers? Is a top chef like Gordon Ramsey and a waiter or waitress equivalent positions?

If all jobs are equal then why would anyone strive for greatness?

The astronaut didn't build the ship that sent them to space. Gordon Ramsay doesn't personally cook every dish served in his restaurants.

The point is that "greatness" is a symbiotic relationship. The astronauts NEEDED a whole team of people to get them into space. Gordon Ramsay NEEDS a team of cooks and servers to keep his restaurants operational.

Researchers also work on a team and peer-reviewed papers credit multiple authors -- the people who provided significant contribution, not just the lead researcher.

And I understand that. But some jobs are more replaceable than others. It’s much harder to find a Neil Degrasse Tyson than a janitor. Even if janitors are a basic necessity, it doesn’t require the dedication and drive to be a janitor that it does to be a physicist. It doesn’t mean being a janitor makes you a bad person, or unworthy of anything, but janitors seldom make the history books.

We’re all trying to achieve self actualization.

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

Believe it or not, even surgeons are replaceable. Especially *** surgeons with a G-d complex.

And actually, I've had a MUCH harder time replacing a good scrub tech, than I do surgeons. So, by that argument, you could say that the scrub tech is the "more important" person.

Depends on how good of a surgeon you are. It’s amazing how good you can be when you don’t waste time with the silliness most people do, sports, going out to clubs and drinking, etc. People waste so much of their lives, when if they focused on academics and professional life they would be amazed at what they could accomplish.

Daddy once told me “if there was a “hell” it would be when the person you became met the person you could have become if you had been more devoted.” It really stuck with me.

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Your father sounds delightful, and great fun at parties.

And I've seen even "great" surgeons get ***-canned for being abusive assholes. So...

Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
2 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:

It’s amazing how good you can be when you don’t waste time with the silliness most people do, sports, going out to clubs and drinking, etc. People waste so much of their lives, when if they focused on academics and professional life they would be amazed at what they could accomplish.

There is so much more to life than academics and a profession.

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4 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:

Even if janitors are a basic necessity, it doesn’t require the dedication and drive to be a janitor that it does to be a physicist. It doesn’t mean being a janitor makes you a bad person, or unworthy of anything, but janitors seldom make the history books.

We’re all trying to achieve self actualization.

That's a weirdly privileged and narcissistic take. Med school costs the kind of money that's out of reach for many people.

Don't go into medicine in any capacity for fame and notoriety. Go into medicine because you actually give a crap about helping people.

Based on your responses in this thread, this is not the field for you. You lack maturity, insight, and, yes, compassion. Get a PhD, become a researcher, find the cure for cancer, whatever -- do anything but work at the bedside.

It’s not fame I’m after. I like learning but I like hands on too. Research seems boring. I’ve been volunteering doing autopsies and I’ve found I really enjoy it. They basically let me do everything, from washing the body, to photography, X-ray, dissection, and sewing them back up. It has definitely been the most meaningful volunteer work I’ve done. (And my hand doesn’t cramp SUPER bad when I sew anymore! That’s the worst part).

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

Perhaps being a pathologist/medical examiner is the perfect niche for you.

Cool so in that case med school would be the right route. I don’t know for sure if it’s what I want to do but I enjoy it for now. I’ll just see where my ambition takes me ?

#Womencandoittoo

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4 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:

It’s not fame I’m after. I like learning but I like hands on too.

I think that's what's missing here -- it's not about what YOU like. It's about the patient. YOUR patient, whether it's a 27 year old kid with endocarditis from heroin abuse, the 80 year old grandma, the incarcerated guy from the local prison admitted for inpatient surgery, or the *** President of the United States. You treat them equally.

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