Witchcraft Resurgence

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Why are so many people today shunning real medicine, vaccines etc for hoaxes and gimmicks like essential oils, weight loss powders, etc? Any ideas why so many are turning away from actual medicine?

So how does one believe in both science and mysticism? One thing I also don’t understand is some Christians don’t believe in science on a fundamental level (don’t believe in evolution and think the world is like a few thousand years old), but still believe in modern medicine. Modern medicine is based on the presumption that science is true.

And I’m not trying to “troll” or insult anyone. I’m just trying to understand how people can believe in both. I don’t mean natural remedies, I mean like magic stones, divination, tarot, astrology, stuff like that.

2 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:

So how does one believe in both science and mysticism? One thing I also don’t understand is some Christians don’t believe in science on a fundamental level (don’t believe in evolution and think the world is like a few thousand years old), but still believe in modern medicine. Modern medicine is based on the presumption that science is true.

And I’m not trying to “troll” or insult anyone. I’m just trying to understand how people can believe in both.

It may seem at odds but it's really not. Witchcraft was the worlds first dabble into science. They really aren't that different. They are both way to make clearer the things we do not understand. That being said, I identify as an Atheist who dabbles in magic, something to make tangible the energy we feel around us always. I don't believe in a higher power for I believe all the power is within myself, and magic gives me a kind of way to tap into that power. The type of magic I do is testament to that. I do not believe I have the power to influence others or anything like that. I do however, know that people give off energy. That energy has an effect on a person and their space. There are methods that can be use to cleanse a space of negative or stagnant energy. I have seen it work with my own eyes.

It's also good to remember that science isn't perfect. It's a collection of theories and proven facts through trial and error, witchcraft is a lot of the same.

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Science is not 100% correct but it is a VERY close approximation. Sometimes we find that scientific theories are not QUITE correct, like how quantum mechanics and relativity, but it’s a close approximation, and we now have theories that reconcile them both, such as dark matter and quantum superposition. But something like astrology, I mean if you read anyones horoscope it could apply to your life. That’s why I have trouble with it.

What kind of trial and error have you seen results with regarding witchcraft?

Also, much of medicine we practice is taught to us at the expense of Black and Brown lives. Slaves, free Black folk, and immigrants have been used to advance science while their forced sacrifice lies unwritten. Science has a very ugly dark side and acknowledging it is important as we reap the benefits of the murder and mutilation of thousands.

Nothing is perfect.

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2 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:

Science is not 100% correct but it is a VERY close approximation. Sometimes we find that scientific theories are not QUITE correct, like how quantum mechanics and relativity, but it’s a close approximation, and we now have theories that reconcile them both, such as dark matter and quantum superposition. But something like astrology, I mean if you read anyones horoscope it could apply to your life. That’s why I have trouble with it.

What kind of trial and error have you seen results with regarding witchcraft?

Science is just a method or tool to understanding. But it is a human thing and we are do not yet understand much about the universe. One thing is that in science you must be able to measure, and some things we just don't have the technology to do so. It is most wise to keep an open mind, and realize the wonders of things unknown. You must keep a perspective on things, for example, just a short while ago we thought the Sun orbited the Earth. In our modern times, just how many things do we have wrong that we assume are right?

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Well Copernicus said it was incorrect in the 1540s, but the good old Catholic Church didn’t like that. Religion at many times is at odds with science. Just today at school I had a weird old woman at the union trying to tell us dinosaurs and humans coexisted, and we were all going to hell for being sinners. Maybe if people didn’t push their creepy religions on us, we wouldn’t have “taken Jesus out of schools”.

18 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:

Well Copernicus said it was incorrect in the 1540s, but the good old Catholic Church didn’t like that. Religion at many times is at odds with science. Just today at school I had a weird old woman at the union trying to tell us dinosaurs and humans coexisted, and we were all going to hell for being sinners. Maybe if people didn’t push their creepy religions on us, we wouldn’t have “taken Jesus out of schools”.

Religion is often a personal thing that is interpreted. Just because an old woman says something does not mean everyone in her religion believe that. I don't see religious people as anymore pushy about their beliefs as atheists. The bottom line is everyone has the right to believe or not believe what they want to and should not be attacked for this. That is why we incorporated the separation of church and government so we don't end up like Iran where you get put to death for not believing. Or other countries where you are punished for believing (China). I think we are going too far to get angry when someone wishes you a Merry Christmas. We need to stop letting little things bother us. And we as medical professionals need to be mindful of this.

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Oh yeah, I agree with you there. I have friends who are Christian but not extreme. They still come partying with us, and aren’t waiting until marriage, etc. I just hate when the certain ones push their beliefs on us. The woman at the student union called me a ho today, and said I shouldn’t be letting people “put their parts inside me” (she judged me based on my dress I guess. And I DONT dress provocatively. I told her “you gotta try it before you buy it!”. They dish it out but when you mess with them back it totally sets them off. They’re like so immature

31 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:

Oh yeah, I agree with you there. I have friends who are Christian but not extreme. They still come partying with us, and aren’t waiting until marriage, etc. I just hate when the certain ones push their beliefs on us. The woman at the student union called me a ho today, and said I shouldn’t be letting people “put their parts inside me” (she judged me based on my dress I guess. And I DONT dress provocatively. I told her “you gotta try it before you buy it!”. They dish it out but when you mess with them back it totally sets them off. They’re like so immature

There are dangerous groups out there too, for example cults who bully their followers, remember Jonestown? I don't like any sales people coming to my door including religious salesmen.

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1 hour ago, JenjaTheNinja said:

Also, much of medicine we practice is taught to us at the expense of Black and Brown lives. Slaves, free Black folk, and immigrants have been used to advance science while their forced sacrifice lies unwritten. Science has a very ugly dark side and acknowledging it is important as we reap the benefits of the murder and mutilation of thousands.

Nothing is perfect.

There was the scientific data we got from nazi experiments after we eliminated them, we still used it anyway to further medicine.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190723-the-ethics-of-using-nazi-science

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1 minute ago, juniper222 said:

There was the scientific data we got from nazi experiments after we eliminated them, we still used it anyway to further medicine.

Mine was but one example of many from all over the world. You are correct.

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Actually, Copernicus’ book was received cordially by the Pope.

You’re probably thinking about Galileo, about 100 years later, who ran afoul of ecclesiastical authority. Although the theme-park explanation for the Galileo controversy is “Church afraid of science”, the story was way more complicated, and involved personality clashes, a lack of civility in both sides, and a larger public discussion of the boundaries of faith and science.

(btw, both Copernicus and Galileo we’re wrong. The Sun is not the center of the universe.)

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