Why are so many nurses against unions?

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I really don't understand. I am a newish nurse that landed my "dream job" in the icu. My hospital is the biggest and best in the area and we are currently on a journey to magnet. I feel like I was lied to about how this would help nurses and we would be supported and taken care of.

In my icu we have a very high acuity. We are constantly short staffed and tripled. 1:1 for ccrt pts is advertised but never actually happens!

I have seen a patient self extubate during the holy interdisciplinary rounds due to that nurse being tripled and spread out across the unit. None of the bosses said any thing and just went on to round on the next patient.

The majority of our assistants will not help unless asked and it's like pulling teeth just to get them to help with a blood sugar check. Often they are sitting on their cellphones or just catching up on gossip. But since they have worked there a long time it is widely accepted by the staff.

We have are losing staff nurses left and right.

I have been talked down to by our surgeons and blatantly disrespected on more than one occasion for trying to help a patient but not enough to be considered abusive so that I could report it. Once, I calmly asked a doc to update the close family members of a dying patient at their request. Since a distant family had been updated, the doctor was visibly offended and proceeded to call my charge nurse and say "I got in her face" which was completely false. Luckily the charge was within ear shot and heard everything. This was swept under the rug.

During my new nurse orientation the nursing instructor preached against unions especially since we were going magnet and would have so many benefits.

I feel like a strong nurse union could solve many of our problems and help our patient care. But the majority of nurses I have talked to are completely against it. I can't understand this for the life of me.

Sadly, my dream job has turned to hell. I love my sick patients and family but sick of being overworked, tripled, never even getting a lunch break, all while being talked down to and humiliated by the Dr.s that see me as a stupid new nurse.

Specializes in Physiology, CM, consulting, nsg edu, LNC, COB.

You may remember from another thread about the recent nine-month nurses strike at St Vincent’s Hospital in western MA. It was concluded when the owners, Tenet, capitulated on demands for wages and benefits commensurate with others in the area, rehiring all the strikers at their old positions and shifts with no loss of seniority, and, most critical, research-based safe staffing ratios.

Recently one of the nurses SVH hired during the time they locked out the Mass Nurses Assoc union members started a movement to repeal the MNA representation and the new contract. Tenet was officially uninvolved and disinterested ( note: disinterest is NOT the same as not interested, a common misconception), but the DON sent an email to all nurses on the company email and on company time that they should vote to decertify. This is a labor law violation, of course.

Well, they held the decertification vote this past week and counted the ballots on Monday.
 

And the nurses voted 3:1 to retain MNA as their bargaining agent and not to decertify. 

3 hours ago, Hannahbanana said:

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... Recently one of the nurses SVH hired during the time they locked out the Mass Nurses Assoc union members started a movement to repeal the MNA representation and the new contract. ...

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Tenet locked out the striking nurses?  Really?  Are you suggesting that even though they were on strike, the striking nurses wanted to work, and Tenet wouldn't allow them to do so?

3 hours ago, Hannahbanana said:

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... Tenet was officially uninvolved and disinterested ( note: disinterest is NOT the same as not interested, a common misconception), but the DON sent an email to all nurses on the company email and on company time that they should vote to decertify. This is a labor law violation, of course.

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Yes, if it happened this way it would be.

Would you be so kind as to provide sources for these claims?

Specializes in Physiology, CM, consulting, nsg edu, LNC, COB.

"Would you be so kind as to provide sources for these claims?"

They refused to hire back the nurses who went out on strike. Apologies if this is mischaracterised by the term "lock out." Part of the settlement was that everybody got their jobs back (if they wanted them) at the same position, unit, schedule, and pay. Search "Boston Globe St Vincent Hospital strike" and you'll find many articles over the 9 month period. Here are a few of the most recent.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/12/17/metro/nurses-union-st-vincents-hospital-worcester-reach-agreement-end-9-month-strike/

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/02/06/business/bitter-feelings-linger-after-lengthy-strike-saint-vincent-hospital/

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/02/28/business/nurses-union-wins-vote-remain-saint-vincent-hospital/

Specializes in LPN/MPH.

Does not have to be the AFL-CIO. They have so much power and if we can get them interested the sky is the limit. 
I see many who agree but we need you, your coworkers, family, and friends to spread the word.  Its sad that no one wants take a minute to be part of the solution 

https://www.change.org/HealthcareWorkersUnite

Specializes in ICU.

I had reached out to the AFL-CIO regarding possibly organizing at the facility I am employed. Multiple unanswered emails finally resulted one answer that gave no direction or resources to organize.

Frustration led to apathy and looking for another job instead of improving the one I have.

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