Why Does Everyone Hate Florida So Much??

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I live in Chicago and have visited almost every part of Florida, I am actually going to be visiting Ft.Lauderdale at the end on January. I ask anyone here that has ever lived in Florida and they have nothing but terrible things to say. They tell me the schools and education systems are bad and that the majority of the population have low Iq's and are poor. I don't know why this is, everyone seemed pretty normal to me?? I would like to move there one day and start a new life with my husband but I'm worried about salary and job placement for both himself and I. Why are some peoples experiences so bad, its so beautiful and the people are very nice. I just don't get it. Can someone help me understand why this is??

you hit it on the head. yes, people are rude up here including myself. :argue: i found when i was in fl driving around and blending in like a "real" resident and not a tourist that i loved who i was in fl:coollook:. i was much calmer and slower paced. i so agree w/ what you said about ny and it goes for boston as well. we pride ourselves on being angry...that is horrible but true. they even advertise that on a tv news station.

it's true to a degree about some northerners taking pride in hostility (i'm a new yorker) but don't put on the rose colored glasses just yet. i"m married to a southerner...a genuine florida native not a transplant whose floridian heritage goes back generations. don't let those charming smiles fool you at all, they'll smile and flip you off at the same time. screw with their families or their way of life and they'll smile while plotting your murder and they won't hesitate to carry it out.

:lol_hitti

hang out w/some people from the mountains of nc, a floridian from northern fl, or a cajun from louisiana and you'll see a darker side of southern hospitality. northerners who spend substantial quality time with real southerners will find out the hard way that talking slower and smiling more doesn't mean anything other then a slower burning fuse makes for a bigger explosion. i sleep w/one eye open around here.

:lol2:

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I lived in Florida most of my life. I will admit I am not a fan, and will not go back to live there. I moved from Florida to Ohio to attend nursing school, and honestly Ohio will not be my final stopping place either. Florida is not all bad, but does have it's drawbacks. Here are some pros and cons to consider:

Pros: Sunny Year Round, great food and dining, a lot to do (beach, amusement parks, fishing, ect,.)

Cons: Hot and humid, bugs galore, cost of living has sky rocketed, people can be quite rude, many snowbirds congest the roads.

Everything depends on where in Florida you call home. The school systems are not horrible, they have many charter schools, and compared to the ones locally here in Ohio they are A+. With that said people here are much more polite, and although race is still an issue here, it is nothing like the white/black barriers down south. Every place you live can have either a black cloud or a silver lining, just determine what appeals to you, and if you can deal with that which does not. :D

P.S. If you want beautiful beaches, you will need Ft. Lauderdale to the gulf side of the state. Good luck on your decision.

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I am a fourth generation Floridian.. Sounds to me like you have been listening to some pretty

culturally biased people.

And for the record, I have nothing against cultural bias, as I am just as biased about the

wonderful cesspits I have lived in up north. :D

Of course, this is the point in the conversation where the discussion tends to disintegrate to

name calling.. oops, So, I'll just say, I would love it if all the people who don't like Florida

would just leave.

BTW, Someone should tell my deceased grandfather who wrote a book on veterinary medicine

that is still in use, that Floridians have low IQs..

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I did, and your response validates exactly why I did so....and I'm a 4th generation Floridian too.

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Nurses down here in Florida have less education. There are too many LPNS and ASNs from 2 year community colleges and not enough highly educated RNs with their BSNs here in the Tampa Bay area. Nurses up north are better educated. Here in Florida, the hospitals don't care if you have your BSN. The salary for an ASN nurse is exactly the same salary for a BSN nurse.

The above sentences are the most uneducated words for being a "highly educated" individual I have ever read!!! For an ASN student to finish nursing school, we have to have as much, or more clinical experience than those "highly educated" RN's that have their BSN. I was educated up north (Indiana) and I would like you to know that during some of my clinicals I had those "highly educated" BSN students come to me (one of those too many ASN RN's) to ask how to do a certain task. Those students saw and was very aware of how much we focused on our clinicals. We sat down with those same "highly educated" RN's and took that horrible two day test (20 yrs ago) as if we were one and the same. They did not give one test for the BSN's and another test for the lower educated ASN's. Now, I cannot speak for the LPN's, but I know I have worked with plenty of those wonderful women and I would never begin to insult them the way you have insulted those of us who "only" have a two year degree. Yes, we cannot teach with our ASN degree, but I know we can do anything else as well as all those "highly educated" RN's with their BSN degree. I had no choice when I set out for Nursing School. I had to finish as soon as possible and could not take the time for two more years. I've had chances to go back to school to get my BSN, but had decided until recently that I didn't need to because I didn't want to go into management or teaching. I always wondered why we as nurses cannot join together and be seen as a powerful force, but it has been demonstrated by just a few sentences. We will never be seen as anything but a force that pulls apart the very fabric that joins us together. When hospitals hire RN's, that's exactly what they get. I'm an RN and you are an RN. We will do the same job with the same skills and so you do not deserve any more money than I would get, because we have had the same education when it involves thoses skills. Guess what, I am even familiar with the nursing process and I have written many care plans. Now if you advance, which you will because you do have that BSN degree, then more power to you for getting a lot more money than me. I commend you for your efforts and you will definitely deserve it. But until then, please refrain from tearing me and my fellow ASN RN's apart and accusing us of not having a good education. Thank you for reading this and trying to understand.

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Nurses down here in Florida have less education. There are too many LPNS and ASNs from 2 year community colleges and not enough highly educated RNs with their BSNs here in the Tampa Bay area. Nurses up north are better educated. Here in Florida, the hospitals don't care if you have your BSN. The salary for an ASN nurse is exactly the same salary for a BSN nurse.

Thank you Saarein!!!! :yeah:I am a ASN RN as well. At the time (2004), I needed to get my RN fast. I was also a LPN for 3 years prior. I will throw in my two cents too. As a LPN when I worked at a LTC facility, I had to orient a new BSN. She looked me up and down, and said, "So you are a LPN?" I told her I was, and she rolled her eyes at me. Well, as the shift went on, I asked Ms. BSN if she felt comfortable hanging an IV due for one of the residents, she grabbed the IV and tubing and said, "Yeah, sure give it to me." I went in after her since the resident knew me to explain what was going to happen. As I watched her spike the bag, I mentioned to close the roller clamp or the solution would gush out and a whole bunch of bubbles would manifest in the tube. I said this to make life easier for her. Well, Ms. BSN, snapped at me and just spiked it...sure enough IV fluid was everywhere, and the tubing had hundreds of little bubbles inside. Hmmm...I'm not saying I have it out for BSNs, because I plan on going back to school yet again, but what am I saying is I'm against arrogance. Arrogant nurses can be dangerous in patient care.

Now, to address Florida nursing education situation, since this is a Florida forum. I feel my LPN education was AWESOME, I learned much more than what was needed. I did this in high school mind you...all while balancing other honor/AP classes. My RN education was decent. They gave me what I needed. I do not feel it's fair to say that some states have sorry education. Unless you've attended every school in Florida. College is what you make it, heck, you pay for it, if you're not getting the education that you want, than make it so.

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Sheesh..

I thought that this forum was one place I could escape 'Hate for Southerners'.

Guess I was wrong.

http://fcit.usf.edu/florida/lessons/famous.htm

btw..

Next time you turn on your air conditioner..Thank another Floridian.

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I am horrified about what I read that people plot murder. I think that is a very broad statement to make:down:. Maybe you came across one person who did this. I can't imagine that you would think everyone who smiles is plotting something. I know many people down there who don't want to murder anyone. I know you had a bad experience there but many people everywhere murder. I have a friend here in MA who her husband was plotting to kill her and hired a hit man. You have to have a watchful eye everywhere. The crime rate where I live is 7/10 and Largo is 5/10. And, don't understand the remark about Ft. Lauderdale as it is not in the gulf. Maybe I misunderstood. Things are changing in America. FL voted for Barack O'bama 52% to 48%. FL is usually a Republican state so your remark about blacks and the South does not jive anymore or O'bama would not have gotten in office. :confused:

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you hit it on the head. yes, people are rude up here including myself. :argue: i found when i was in fl driving around and blending in like a "real" resident and not a tourist that i loved who i was in fl:coollook:. i was much calmer and slower paced. i so agree w/ what you said about ny and it goes for boston as well. we pride ourselves on being angry...that is horrible but true. they even advertise that on a tv news station.

that is not true!!!! i was born and raised in brooklyn, ny and i do not pride myself on being angry, nor am i an angry person!!! i am not rude, unless someone is rude to me(and even then it depends on the situation)... that is a generalized statement, which is totally not true!!!!

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It's true to a degree about some northerners taking pride in hostility (I'm a New Yorker) but don't put on the rose colored glasses just yet. I"m married to a southerner...a genuine Florida native not a transplant whose Floridian heritage goes back generations. Don't let those charming smiles fool you at all, they'll smile and flip you off at the same time. Screw with their families or their way of life and they'll smile while plotting your murder and they won't hesitate to carry it out.

:lol_hitti

Hang out w/some people from the mountains of NC, a Floridian from northern FL, or a Cajun from Louisiana and you'll see a darker side of southern hospitality. Northerners who spend substantial quality time with real southerners will find out the hard way that talking slower and smiling more doesn't mean anything other then a slower burning fuse makes for a bigger explosion. I sleep w/one eye open around here.

:lol2:

"HeHeHe":chuckle She laughes with her dark sinister southern drawl!

Mahage

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Nurses down here in Florida have less education. There are too many LPNS and ASNs from 2 year community colleges and not enough highly educated RNs with their BSNs here in the Tampa Bay area. Nurses up north are better educated. Here in Florida, the hospitals don't care if you have your BSN. The salary for an ASN nurse is exactly the same salary for a BSN nurse.

The above sentences are the most uneducated words for being a "highly educated" individual I have ever read!!! For an ASN student to finish nursing school, we have to have as much, or more clinical experience than those "highly educated" RN's that have their BSN. I was educated up north (Indiana) and I would like you to know that during some of my clinicals I had those "highly educated" BSN students come to me (one of those too many ASN RN's) to ask how to do a certain task. Those students saw and was very aware of how much we focused on our clinicals. We sat down with those same "highly educated" RN's and took that horrible two day test (20 yrs ago) as if we were one and the same. They did not give one test for the BSN's and another test for the lower educated ASN's. Now, I cannot speak for the LPN's, but I know I have worked with plenty of those wonderful women and I would never begin to insult them the way you have insulted those of us who "only" have a two year degree. Yes, we cannot teach with our ASN degree, but I know we can do anything else as well as all those "highly educated" RN's with their BSN degree. I had no choice when I set out for Nursing School. I had to finish as soon as possible and could not take the time for two more years. I've had chances to go back to school to get my BSN, but had decided until recently that I didn't need to because I didn't want to go into management or teaching. I always wondered why we as nurses cannot join together and be seen as a powerful force, but it has been demonstrated by just a few sentences. We will never be seen as anything but a force that pulls apart the very fabric that joins us together. When hospitals hire RN's, that's exactly what they get. I'm an RN and you are an RN. We will do the same job with the same skills and so you do not deserve any more money than I would get, because we have had the same education when it involves thoses skills. Guess what, I am even familiar with the nursing process and I have written many care plans. Now if you advance, which you will because you do have that BSN degree, then more power to you for getting a lot more money than me. I commend you for your efforts and you will definitely deserve it. But until then, please refrain from tearing me and my fellow ASN RN's apart and accusing us of not having a good education. Thank you for reading this and trying to understand.

I did't take the OP as being insulting and I am a proud southerner. We do have some cultural uniqueness also! I don't find it offensive as I am Appalacian and came from a community where things were taken care of in a way that our earlier ancestors would have condoned. This is not always bad. I hold a BSW, an MSW, an ASN and a BSN. I worked much harder getting my ASN than I did in either my Bachelor's degrees or my Master of Social Work Degree. My nursing schools program was broken down where you first earn the Associates in Nursing, set for your boards and then are eligible to complete the BSN.

The one clinical advantage I have after obtaining my BSN is that I had a course in Pathophysiology and one in Pharmacology that in my opinion should have been required in ASN classes. These classes did not make me a better nurse, but gave me a little boost in that area that the ASN or diploma nurse might not have. Believe me I have worked with loads of fantastic ADN and ASNs not to mention some of my favorite and smartest coworkers are LPNs. I personally believe in getting as much education as possible but that is a choice available to me and it might not be to everyone. I finished my BSN while working full time as an Associates RN. I didn't experience any dramatic changes and did not get a salary increase when I got my BSN. What I got was eligibility for conventional MSN program.

Nursing is unique in that the ASN or diploma RN is the major level where in Social Work there is a big difference in knowledge base of a BSW and an MSW and a 2 year degree in human services will only make you eligible for a job as a tech or an assistant in some programs. The pay levels are atrocious when an if a job requiring a two year degree can be found. The ASN pay I started at topped my MSW pay with twenty plus years experience. In my opinion nurses have life and death responsibility and deserve to be paid hazardous duty pay. I work harder as an RN than I ever did as a Social Worker. I loved certain areas of social work such as Mobile Crisis but that was the most intense and emotionally demanding job I ever had and the worst paid as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. That pay is disgraceful. :twocents:

Mahage

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I lived in central FL for 15 years, raising 2 kids and working. The high school was like a third world country. It was total chaos, with very little attempt by teachers to control children. FL hates kids, really. They don't fund them, and the old folks who retire there could care less. The whole state is about image, dress, possessions and the glitzy life. People go broke so they won't look uncool. The wages are a joke and even no state tax can make up for that. For nurses, it's a pretty lethal state, too. They get sued a lot, and they have regulations out the yazoo. It's a great place to visit...and then go back home.

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