Why Can't Visitors be as Polite As Inmates in the County Jail?

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as part of a public service commitment, i made a visit to the local detention centers -- aka the county jails. one of the things that struck me -- and there were several -- was how polite were the inmates i encountered. when they passed you in a corridor, they said "excuse me," they answered questions politely and there was none of the sullenness i've come to expect when encountering members of the public in the hospital corridors. i know that i didn't encounter the worst of the worst -- although we did pass by a couple of maxium security dormitories and were subjected to the kind of catcalls i had been expecting from the entire jail population. but by and large those inmates we did encounter were pleasant and polite.

i wonder why those same folks, when visiting friends and family in the hospital, can't be equally polite. it can be argued that it's not a stress thing -- surely being incarcerated is just as stressful as visiting someone in the hospital! could it be that there are consequences to poor behavior when in jail, and none when visiting those "customer service" hotbeds known as hospitals?

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It took all of my might not to turn around and key her car :stone That would have shown her how rude I was and if it would have been about 12 years prior that is probably exactly what I would have done :stone

I probably would have done the same thing 12 years ago.

Seriously, though, what has happened to common courtesy and personal accountability? It's such a "me me me" society. Pathetic.

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Interesting, Ruby Vee. I worked for over 2 years in a prison(as a correctional officer) and most all of those convicts were rude. No consequences for their rude behavior---what more can possibly be done to them/ They're already locked up!

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interesting, ruby vee. i worked for over 2 years in a prison(as a correctional officer) and most all of those convicts were rude. no consequences for their rude behavior---what more can possibly be done to them/ they're already locked up!

i was touring a minimum security local detention center, not the state penitentiary. they had lots of privileges, some of which i'm sure they lost for bad behavior.

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i was touring a minimum security local detention center, not the state penitentiary. they had lots of privileges, some of which i'm sure they lost for bad behavior.

well that's good if they did lose some privileges; they should have their teeth knocked out for the crap they spout at times. i'm of the belief that if our laws were based on "an eye for an eye", instead of putting these creeps up for years with steak once a week, fitness gyms, etc, then we'd have much less crime and a need for fewer prisons.

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The prisoners love the hospital. Comfy beds, 3 hot decent meals, cable, phone, passed snacks. It is like a vacation!

Yep, they will deliberately sabotage their health (stick fingers down their throats to vomit, ask for coffee so they can maybe fake a temperature, irritate existing wounds, etc). Whenever they ask for snacks and coffee and stuff, I tell them to take it up with the guards. I'll tell the guards of dietary restrictions, and leave it at that. Otherwise, they get fresh water at the bedside and whatever the cafeteria brings them, with the exception of diabetic patients. Even then, it's just crackers and maybe juice if blood sugar is low. One patient was notorious with all the guards for faking seizures, pain, falls, etc. daily. I figured this out even before the guards told me. He told the doctor that he wanted milk, and the naive doctor ordered me some milk. I refused, stating that he had been playing games for days and was not going to be manipulated, so he could get the milk himself. I was chided for not being compassionate, but some people don't understand that many inmates are desperate for any kind of opportunity to toe the line and take miles when you give them inches.

I've encountered plenty of jerk inmate patients, but they were still less jerky than other patients because of the 2 guards standing right there.

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could it be that there are consequences to poor behavior when in jail, and none when visiting those "customer service" hotbeds known as hospitals?

that's exactly what it is!! healthcare has turned into a public service for a population raised on a 'the customer is always right' mentality. in my ideal world, i'd be able to post a sign beside the emtala notice stating "if the customer was always right, the customer wouldn't have need of our services." illness and injury cannot be instantly cured. often times, recovery is a painful process. medications cause nausea, blood draws hurt, getting up at 0500 post open heart surgery w/ chest tubes and drips is painful- but it must be done.

inmates either know, or find out quickly, that being a jerk in the infirmary/hospital has swift repercussions. ironically, it's not the guards they fear the most. as a previous poster commented, some inmates do extraordinary things to obtain a 'hospital vacation.' if they act up- they endanger other inmates chances of getting similiar services, and their fellow inmates will deal with them accordingly.

the worse families are the ones who coddle their loved ones to death. you take a pt out to the car after d/c via wc for example. if you were quick-thinking, you already got most of momma's family out of the room under the pretense of pulling the car up close to the door and letting it warm up- momma gets cold! once you reach the car, five children/grandchildren jump into action. they plan some very elaborate schemes on how to get momma into the car so that momma doesn't have to endure an ounce of discomfort or use a single muscle. usually these schemes are downright dangerous, and eventually i offend them all because momma is in more danger of tripping over all the help then anything else. momma has to endure the freezing wind whist family argue as to the best route of complicated measures to 'help' momma. why can't i just pull momma up? well, momma needs to move, to begin with. not to mention i cannot pull on anything while trying to lean over three family members about to shove momma over the wheelchair and sling her headfirst into the passenger seat. as a matter of fact, momma has a death grip on me and is not about to let go because she knows she's about to be catapulted into the car with enough force to shoot her out the driver's side window. it's no wonder the elderly have such a fear of falling- the families sling them around like a sack of grain 'helping' them.

(nothing kills the elderly faster then a nice long week of bedrest and a coddling family. besides, if i pull on momma, i'll likely hurt her. don't ever say- i can't pull on momma because my back is already screaming and i have a family to support- that's 'unprofessional and rude.' i am just a lowly servent, there to serve as the family see fit. so everything has to be explained in a 'momma's best interests' manner.)

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