Published Sep 3, 2009
Divest
53 Posts
I know it's nearly impossible to give an accurate answer, but I would like to know everyone's opinions on how long they think this is going to go on for, or if this hiring freeze is permanent and that nursing is going to forever be a difficult field to get a job in from now on. Do you think that the nursing field has stablized itself to the point where nurses are never going to have the freedom, siging bonuses, or ease of finding jobs again? Do you think that it will ever return to what it was just a couple of years ago?
I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks because I'm personally worried that nursing is going to be forever changed to the point where nurses are never going to have that freedom that used to come with getting a nursing license and working as a nurse.
I'm going to be done with nursing school in about a year from now and I'm wondering if everything will clear up and there will be openings, or if I'm just wasting my time in school for a field that I'm going to have an extremely difficult time finding a job in.
Id21
2 Posts
well for RN its easy for them to get a job.one of my friends got his license and in a week he was hired...For LVN/LPN its very hard to find a job.its funny because in school they made it seem like once you graduated everything would be ok...what they meant was "Yea you can make $20-25 an hour.That is if your freakin lucky enough to find a job".
Easy for RN's to get a job? What alternate universe are you living in? Maybe you just haven't spent enough time reading the threads on this site, but what you said just simply isn't true. Times are difficult for everyone right now, including experienced RN's. Your friend may have gotten lucky, but there are way too many new grads that aren't getting as lucky.
well out here in CA they're is a somewhat high demand for RN especially in the Inland Empire(county).Yea my friend got real lucky.But i also know other RN's that have gotten their jobs in a month.
Mistang
1 Post
I am glad to hear about your friend dear, but jobs for nurses espcially new grad nurses are impossible these days. I am a new grad and here in Reno, NV no one is hiring new grads. We need experience and we are too expensive to train. California is even worst then us. Not even Vegas is hiring for anything. Its the cat & mouse game. Just wait they say! or have connection.
Tait, MSN, RN
2,142 Posts
According to NPR this morning they expect the Heathcare industry to be the first to bounce back, potentially with a year. Other industries however may never see a return to pre-decline jobs such as construction due to over-hiring during the housing bubble.
Too bad I can't find the program from this morning, it was rather fascinating, however in my post 12 hour delirium I didn't catch what program it was.
Tait
mlok
99 Posts
id21 Where is Inland Empire located?? Can you please list hospitals in the area?? I am interested in applying. I am a new grad still looking for a job. I'm currently in San Diego, CA.
The Inland Empire is in Southern California, more specifically Riverside and San Bernardino County. Typically, Inland Empire means Riverside, Temecula, Moreno Valley, Perris, Murrieta, etc. etc.
I live very close to the Inland Empire (I live in Los Angeles) and used to live in Perris, which is in the Inland Empire. Unfortunately he just knows a whole bunch of lucky people because I know plenty of new grads who can't find a job who live in the Inland Empire.
I understand that everyone is having a difficult time finding a job, but that isn't what this thread is about. I would appreciate it if we could keep this thread on topic, please. :)
Sorry Divest.
I really doubt this hiring freeze will be permanent. Everyone needs healthcare. The baby boomers are getting older and will require medical attention. I think the hiring freezes will end when the government passes a healthcare bill, or at least I am hoping.
OC_An Khe
1,018 Posts
Any industry will hire/not hire based on the economics of the time. To hire you need two things (a bit of an over simplification). You need demand for the service the employee will provide. There is still and will continue to be adequate demand for nursing services. The second thing you need is adequate capital and access to credit in order to pay the nurse until you are paid for the nurses service that you are selling. This is what is missing at this time do to the recession and changes in reimbursement structures. You need predictability that this capital/credit will be available in the future at the necessary levels to assume the risk of hiring a new worker. It is the second thing that needs to be resolved before hiring will again begin.
A major factor in the economics is the changes that have taken place in reimbursement, for example no pay for never events, reduced medicare reimbursements based on quality indicators and the health care reforms that are being talked about in Congress. All of which change the predictability of future income that is needed to pay the additional/new nurse. When these factors are settled is when you will see hiring begin.
A recession will also increase the supply of experienced RNs who are seeking work thus increasing the supply of available nurses. This leads to greater competition for the available positions.
So the answer is the hiring freeze will end when the recession is over, the credit availability stabilizes and the uncertainty about reimbursements get resolved. It is not something that can be readily answered with specificity.
oramar
5,758 Posts
I will give you a actual number, this is my prediction. Hiring freeze will end in a year or less and things will start to rebound. It is not going to go from 0 to 100 miles in one day but it is going to turn and start to improve. I think within five years people will be talking nursing shortage again.
Katnip, RN
2,904 Posts
I read an article on Yahoo the other day that said people are slowly started to become more confident and are going back to scheduling elective surgeries.
Like Oramar said, this isn't going to be an overnight turn-around, but it will happen within a year or 2. I think it will be closer to a year.