What's the deal with Columbus State admission?

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My friend applied in January 2009 for their traditional ADN program and was accepted (as all students are) and was told her start date was March 2011. In the meantime, she applied twice to their online program and was rejected.

Their website states for application dates...

Traditional Track

  • Jan. 6-15, 2010 for the Autumn 2010 class
  • July 1-9, 2010 for the Spring 2011 class
  • Jan. 10-19, 2011 for the Autumn 2011 class

I called the school and asked: "So, If I apply during the July 2010 application period and meet all the requirements, I'll definitely get to start in March of 2011?" Their answer? YES OF COURSE YOU WILL!

Is the waitlist gone at CSCC or is the nursing school misleading me? I don't want to hold out and stay in Columbus an extra year only to be disappointed and realize I could have started at Tri-C sooner after all.

Also, what is the deal with CSCC requiring the anatomy, physiology, chemistry, and biology sections for the Hesi A2 exam?!

They require organic/biochem as a prerequisite, but a lot of the chemistry seems to be stuff covered in general chemistry (nuclear chem, molar relationships, stoichiometry, etc). Additionally, biology isn't a prerequisite in any way, shape, or form. Anatomy and physiology are taken during the nursing program and are not requirements. The Hesi review book states: "A one-year course in anatomy and physiology should be taken before the student prepares for the anatomy examination." Yet, CSCC expects us to rock that section BEFORE taking any form of A&P. What is up with all that?! Luckily I've taken biology and general chemistry for science majors and I've taken anatomy (not physiology) so I'm a bit better off, but that seems really unfair. Additionally, I took anatomy twice (As both times) and both were high level with human cadavers taught by medical school faculty and there is a lot of anatomy stuff in the review book I never learned. Needless to say, I'm frustrated and worried.

Thoughts?

I know in the online program, the general education coursework is waived as all students have a bachelor's degree. Anyone know if the general education coursework is waived for traditional program students who have a bachelor's degree? There is one general education course I did not receive transfer credit for and I really don't want to waste the time/money taking another sillly irrelevant general education coursework. I asked the nursing department and the response I got was, "It is possible for all students with a previous degree to receive credit for the general education requirements." Really helpful.... haha.

All of my undergrad coursework counted. Just send your transcripts in and they will credit you. Aside from the science sequence, I am only taking nursing classes. You can see what they credited you for in Cougarweb.

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(1) Columbus State already has my transcripts and I don't have credit for the SSCI coursework or one of the COMM series (writing for health/human services or business writing or whatever).

(2) You don't need psychology to get a bachelor's degree. I went to two different schools and neither one required it. You could get your social sciences in a lot of ways, but it didn't have to be psychology

I REALLY don't want to take the SSCI class (100, 101, 102, 104, 105) or whatever it is. I completed gen ed coursework at TWO schools and I am SO sick and tired of useless boring gen ed coursework. Every advisor I have met with has a different story. I never know what the truth is.

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Have you checked on CougarWeb? For whatever reason my transcripts show up with all of my coursework listed.

There's a section on CougarWeb where you can look to see which courses complete which requirements, although I don't remember seeing that section until I was accepted into the program. I also didn't have any of the specific classes to meet the SSCI requirement. But, they were really good with working with me on it. I did however have to take a speech class because I had nothing even closely related in college, although perhaps if I had waited to talk to a nursing advisor I might have gotten out of it as well -- the general advisors don't really know a lot about that program.

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All my coursework is on CougarWeb. I've been a part-time student at CSCC for 2 years now :)

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All my coursework is on CougarWeb. I've been a part-time student at CSCC for 2 years now :)

Have you done a degree audit? Is that there you're showing that you don't have the SSCI course? See, when I did the degree audit, it showed I was missing that (although I did the audit after being accepted into the program, so I don't know if that matters) and I went to the NURS dept and they told me to get in touch with the SSCI department. The SSCI dept reviewed my transcripts from MHC and gave me SSCI credit for other coursework. There is paperwork to fill out after I start the program to formalize that, but I don't anticipate a problem. I have all the e-mails.

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I might have to look into doing that. I did run a "what-if" audit for the nursing program and it shows me as missing two gen ed classes... the second COMM class and the SSCI class. I'll have to contact the department. Looks like I'm SOL on the COMM class though as I never took a comm class specific to healthcare or business, although life credit would be nice as I've worked extensively in both areas and communicated/written a lot :)

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Sounds like you mostly got it right!

First quarter: LTC

Second Quarter: OB (this includes L&D, mother/infant, and high risk OB)

Third Quarter: Med/Surg

Fourth Quarter: Peds or Med/Surg/surgical shadowing

Fifth Quarter: Peds or Med/Surg/surgical shadowing (whichever you didn't have the quarter before)

Sixth Quarter: Rehab/Psych (half one, half the other)

Seventh Quarter: Med/Surg, Preceptorship, there's also a trauma clinical offered at Grant but you have to have taken the trauma elective in order to get in, and your spot is not guaranteed, there are more people in the class than there are room for in the clinical.

My clinical experiences have been really good, peds I mostly had trachs, med surg I did ortho and renal, and I'm in a preceptorship seventh quarter in oncology, which is what I requested.

Michelle

What exactly is med/surg shadowing?? I've never heard of shadowing - I thought clinicals were hands on!!

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Sorry about the confusion. You'll be doing hands on stuff that quarter as part of your regular clinical, buy one day instead of being with your clinical group you'll shadow in the OR. Follow a patient from preop, watch their surgical procedure, and then through PACU. You won't do anything clinical in the OR or preop or PACU. Depending on what is on the schedule that day you may get to watch several procedures. I was on an ortho unit so I watched a knee scope, a foot surgery, and a shoulder replacement repair (something had gone very wrong with her original procedure) The rest of the quarter you'll be doing hands on on your unit.

hth

Michelle

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I need some relevant coursework to take at CSCC - any suggestions? I have to wait until Autumn 2011 most likely to start and I need something to take in the mean time!

Here's what I've done so far

--all gen ed stuff (bachelor's degree)

--pharmacology

--biological anthropology

--health care ethics

--medical terminology

--nutrition

--anatomy

--physiology

--microbiology

--pathophysiology

Thanks :) :)

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So you're okay on statistics and chem113?

If so, then I would consider taking the phlebotomy sequence and EMT courses. Spanish would also be beneficial.

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Sorry about the confusion. You'll be doing hands on stuff that quarter as part of your regular clinical, buy one day instead of being with your clinical group you'll shadow in the OR. Follow a patient from preop, watch their surgical procedure, and then through PACU. You won't do anything clinical in the OR or preop or PACU. Depending on what is on the schedule that day you may get to watch several procedures. I was on an ortho unit so I watched a knee scope, a foot surgery, and a shoulder replacement repair (something had gone very wrong with her original procedure) The rest of the quarter you'll be doing hands on on your unit.

hth

Michelle

That's so funny - I actually observed a shoulder replacement repair too... at OSU East!!

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So you're okay on statistics and chem113?

If so, then I would consider taking the phlebotomy sequence and EMT courses. Spanish would also be beneficial.

Yes, I have credit for CHEM 113 and stats. Knowing phlebotomy before nursing school would be really beneficial... as would Spanish. My job pays for any relevant coursework to my job (pharmacy) so things like pharmacy tech and nursing (we have 9,000 nurses on staff at infusion clinics) count. Hopefully I can convince them that phlebotomy and spanish are relevant too :) I think I can get Spanish to fly - I have to call the interpreter like 5 times a day at work for non-English speaking patients and it is also for Spanish!! I was thinking about the EKG class, but I already know how to do EKGs (and have done a ton) and we learned the basics of how to interpret them in physiology? 2 full quarters seems like a lot for EKGs!!

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