What to do when.....?

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I am an RN working in an extremely remote hospital in outback Australia. We are generalist nurses caring for a patient population ranging from psych to acute stroke, chronic care to palliative care. Unlike other places our nursing has the RN's out on the ward doing as many showers etc as the LPN's. I can't remember a time in nine years when we haven't been shortstaffed, or have been given adequate resources to do our jobs properly. But we do our best, and we really do care about our patients. They are mostly elderly and have endured horrific conditions in a harsh desert, while the men did dangerous work in the mines.....they are tough and resilient, and grateful for everything we manage to do for them.

Three weeks ago a patient was diagnosed with terminal cancer. This was a shock to her and her huge loving family. Two days later she was unconscious. Not an unusual story out here.

On the day I am writing about I was working with the family for the first time. They weren't coping so I was trying to provide as much support and education as possible. The patient had a death rattle that was becoming louder and more distressing to the family, despite multiple doses of anticholinergics and morphine. It was a bad situation just becoming worse.

I asked an LPN to help me give the pt a wash, check her incontinence pad, and try some postural drainage. As tipping a dying patient so their head is much lower than their feet is not a very dignified act I asked the family if they'd mind stepping out of the room for a short while. They were reluctant as they wanted to be there every minute until the patient died. I said we'd be quick and just wanted to make sure the patient was comfortable and dry. So they left.

We tipped the bed and noticed an instant decrease in volume of the death rattle. When I rolled the patient towards myself I commented to the LPN that sometimes repositioning and drainage is the best intervention. I rolled the pt back and was horrified to see dark blood pouring out of her nose and mouth. I grabbed the suction and started suctioning the blood, but it soon became clear that the patient was about to die and the blood flow wasn't going to stop. At least this event explained the worsening death rattle not responding to meds.

By then there was blood everywhere. I was doing my best to suction and to try to help the LPN change the linen, hindered by her having to run out of the room for linen and other supplies. I could see my patient's life ebbing and wanted to get her cleaned up so I could get the family back before she actually died. Our frantic efforts to change her clothes, keep suctioning and change the linen meant the yankeur had sprayed blood up the wall and across the floor, so we were trying to clean that up to.

I felt totally hopeless. I didn't know what to do. I wanted the family to be able to come back in to be with the patient, but how could I confront them with an image of her drowning in her own blood? And with every second I was thinking about it she was one more breath closer to being dead. It ended with us getting her on her side, draining as much as we could, cleaning her face, throwing covers over the linen, then hoping she'd die before the blood built up and poured out of her face and mouth again. I got the family back in, telling them she was about to die. She took one more breath, then was dead.

Three weeks later I still haven't come up with an answer for this situation. What if it was obvious nothing was going to stop the blood flow and the patient was so close to death there was no opportunity to prepare the family for what they were about to see? Do you delay things until the patient is dead? Do you just let them in to witness the event, then counsel them afterwards?

I've seen some awful deaths. It was the first death the LPN had witnessed. She was so traumatised by it I took her out for a five minute coffee. My manager made a comment about our going but I said we were going for a few minutes to have a coffee. I was traumatised too, because I had been so stuck. The LPN cried while she drank the coffee and I got to explain to her that such a death isn't common. Then we went back to work. My manager came up to me later and I told her what had happened. She said perhaps in future when such things happen it is a good idea to take a few minutes to debrief as it seemed to be helpful. As it has never happened in the nine years I've been here that is one good outcome from a not good death.

Other staff have said that we might have to get red sheets for when patients have a bleed. I'm not convinced that families won't notice pools of blood on red sheets. This is going to happen again. We've recently had three patients with fungating tumours involving their necks and the doctors expected them to die from catastrophic haemorrhages. They didn't. My patient did.

Have others been in similar situations? What did you do?

After all that the family thanked me for the care I'd given their mother that day. I still don't know what I should think about it.

Specializes in LTC.

You did fantastic, hon. You CARED. And you continue to do so. You made a difference with the family and you were an amazing support to the LPN as well.

Bless your amazing heart.

:hug:

Specializes in LTC.

BTW, I had no idea that Australia had LPNs!

Specializes in Med/Surg, DSU, Ortho, Onc, Psych.

Goodness, what a truly awful experience for you and this other nurse. I'm glad you took some time out - you are not a robot after all.

I still blame the media and how we are raised re perceptions of death. Death is not pretty - I myself have rarely seen a death that didn't sound, smell or look horrendous. People see shows like ER where the patients are all cleaned up and they are only actors after all, but I have always thought families of hospice/palliative care patients should be given a tasteful brochure warning them that the actual time of death may not be what they are expecting and could in all likelihood be horrendous and traumatising, listing some possible sights, sounds and smells, plus all the paraphernalia such as tubes etc. I have even met families/relatives who have been told in no uncertain terms their loved ones WILL die very soon - and they still think there is hope.

The image of a nicely breathing, white sheeted figure lying still in bed is usually what is portrayed on TV programs. In some ways, we are all a bit immune to the reality of death, and are not raised in Western society to face it. Eastern societies seem to be a bit more accepting, and seem much calmer, in my experience anyway.

Red sheets would not help, blood goes much darker after oxygen hits it when it's left the human body anyway. You did the best you could under horrific circumstances, and I have nursed in some remote places with limited facilities myself, so I have an idea of what you're talking about (though not as bad).

I say well done, the family appreciated you, and you both did your best in a very bad situation.

Specializes in Med/Surg, DSU, Ortho, Onc, Psych.
BTW, I had no idea that Australia had LPNs!

think the poster meant an Enrolled Nurse. As far as I know, we don't.

Specializes in CVICU, Obs/Gyn, Derm, NICU.
think the poster meant an Enrolled Nurse. As far as I know, we don't.

Carol - I believe EN's are very similar to LVN's

BTW, I had no idea that Australia had LPNs!

We don't. I have some friends who work as nurses in the U.S so I know what our equivalents are.

The minimum qualification for RN's here as been the equivalent to your BSN, and has been like that for many years.

LPN's here are called EN's, Enrolled Nurses.

CNA's are AIN's, Assistants in Nursing. These mainly staff nursing homes. Our nursing homes aren't like yours. Anyone needing IV's etc is sent back to the acute care facility. Our best New Grads tend to be those who have worked as AIN's to fund their degree. They have mastered time management BEFORE they start with us.

Our EN's did a medication course a few years ago that enabled them to become Endorsed Enrolled Nurses. This allows them to give out all the same meds as we RN's, including IV's and narcotics. However, they can't NIM medications.

In my hospital we RN's have to do without respiratory techs or therapists, IV teams etc. We do the lot, and this includes ADL's and bedmaking. If there is already a crisis happening in the hospital we have to deal with our own too. We also frequently do bed moves and transport patients through the hospital ourselves, take bodies to the morgue etc. We're also amateur social workers and counsellors. You name it, we do it.

When a patient died a couple of months ago I had an audience of new nurses who all wanted to see a dead body and learn what to do before taking the body to the morgue.

When I showed them how to get the body into the body bag one of them said, 'This is so sad. A life has passed and this is it. We put them in a plastic bag and they no longer exist.'

I can see what he means. But he forgot the person does still exist in the hearts and minds of their loved ones.

The death of a person is a very significant event. Perhaps there should be trumpets and angels carrying the body off towards the light. Morning tea that day was very funny as everyone tried to outdo each other with their ideas about what should happen to mark the end of a life.

Specializes in Med/Surg, DSU, Ortho, Onc, Psych.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, DSU, Ortho, Onc, Psych.

Yes I agree that remote/country Oz nursing is harder in many ways than city nursing. I have had to cope many times with no EN/AIN to assist, or even with only one orderly (or none) on for the hospital - makes life VERY difficult and exchausting.

In one country hospital I worked in, when coming on shift - b4 handover - we had to re-stock all the IV paraphernalia (kept on the wall in plastic holders); check all the medications and re-order them (pharmacy services were very limited, pharmacy was only open certain daylight hours), run around for meds or delivering meds to other wards (we used to pinch them from other wards when pharmacy was closed!); taking bodies to the morgue, doing all the necessary checks, signing them in, documenting new bodies on the computer, etc as no orderlies would be available; running down to the laundry to get linen as we would have run out (sometimes we had NO new linen at all on weekends and public holidays) - I used to tell my patients to hide towels and sheets etc, when the linen was there b4 a weekend, cos there wouldn't BE any by the time Sunday came around! Plus you still have your own patient load to care for. Oh and have had to empty overflowing trash bins many times as well.

And on weekends forget about physios or any other allied health personnel in country hospitals. Many only work 2-3 days a week, never or rarely on weekends. I have also been the social worker/physio/counsellor/mental health nurse in country hospitals.

How talented we remote nurses are!!

Specializes in Level II & III NICU, Mother-Baby Unit.

I know in my heart you did absolutely everything you could in this situation. I admire you more than words can say. As a matter of fact, as I was reading your post, I thought to myself, "I want to be that nurse when I grow up." and I'm in my 50's and have been nursing over 20 years now. Kudos to you my friend! You are wonderful in every way!!!

You were also kind enough to care for your co-worker as well as the patient and the patient's family.

Good job.

I thought the same but failed to mention it previously. I would be very glad to be your co-worker.

I thought the same but failed to mention it previously. I would be very glad to be your co-worker.

Thanks for all your responses. I think I can let this incident go now.

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