What happen after 3 CRNE fails

suzanne4, RN · Jul 26, 2008

First of all it depends if the person is a Canadian or there on a visa pending passing of the CRNE. If that is the case, then there visa gets cancelled and they need to return home or to another country.

Each province has their own requirements, just like each state in the US, would check specifically with the one that you are interested in.

Best of luck to you.

Fiona59 · Jul 26, 2008

I think it is like CPNRE, three fails and your done. PNs have to return to school to be "re-educated" if they want to continue to attempt to be a professional nurse.

Pediatric Critical Care Columnist · Jul 26, 2008

CRN British Columbia says: "A candidate is eligible to write the registration examination

three times only, including all writings of the registered

nurse examination in other Canadian jurisdictions. An

applicant who has failed the registration examination twice

will be required to complete remedial studies prior to

writing the examination a third time.

An applicant for registration who has failed the registration

examination three times shall not be eligible to rewrite the

examination, unless in exceptional circumstances the Board of

Directors decides otherwise following an appeal, under section

44 of the Nurses (Registered) Act."

CRN Manitoba says: "WHAT HAPPENS IF ONE FAILS THE CRNE FOR A

SECOND TIME? CAN I STILL WORK AS A GRADUATE

NURSE?

Any candidate who fails the CRNE for a second

time must successfully complete a course of

instruction before applying to write the

examination for the third and final time.

Registration as a graduate nurse is cancelled as

soon as the CRNM receives notification of a

second failure."

It's basically three strikes and you're out. Although I haven't included the exact wording here, be aware that the three attempts rule applies to all attempts no matter where you wrote, so you can't write twice in Vancouver, then twice in Calgary then twice in Regina and keep working your way across the country. You'd go broke, for one thing. Personally I feel that if you've written the exam three times and have not passed, then you probably aren't suitably educated to be a registered nurse in Canada.

Utopia · Jul 28, 2008

Personally I feel that if you've written the exam three times and have not passed, then you probably aren't suitably educated to be a registered nurse in Canada.

That's kind of harsh, wouldn't you say? After all, the person is smart enough to have passed four years of nursing school, but because they failed a test three times, that means they aren't suited to be a nurse? I'm sure some people who don't deserve to be nurses have passed the CRNE, and some who would have made fantastic nurses have failed.

In the States, there's no cap on the amount of times someone can take the NCLEX. So if a nurse in the US has failed several times, then they aren't qualified to be a nurse?

I understand standards must be extremely high when it comes to working in the health care industry, but the way it's done in Canada is ridiculous. Not only must the CRNE be passed by the third attempt, but it's only offered three times a year. It costs almost $500 to write the test, on top of the thousands of dollars you've already spent on nursing school.

They say there is a nursing shortage, but they make it extremely difficult to obtain registration.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Jul 28, 2008

Some states do actually require you to take some sort of refresher course if you fail NCLEX 3 times. The UK has similar standards, can only fail 2 or 3 times and that's that, not a nurse. Sometimes you have to put standards down and each country will have their own requirements.

Pediatric Critical Care Columnist · Jul 28, 2008

Quality over quantity?

suzanne4, RN · Jul 28, 2008

That's kind of harsh, wouldn't you say? After all, the person is smart enough to have passed four years of nursing school, but because they failed a test three times, that means they aren't suited to be a nurse? I'm sure some people who don't deserve to be nurses have passed the CRNE, and some who would have made fantastic nurses have failed.
In the States, there's no cap on the amount of times someone can take the NCLEX. So if a nurse in the US has failed several times, then they aren't qualified to be a nurse?
I understand standards must be extremely high when it comes to working in the health care industry, but the way it's done in Canada is ridiculous. Not only must the CRNE be passed by the third attempt, but it's only offered three times a year. It costs almost $500 to write the test, on top of the thousands of dollars you've already spent on nursing school.
They say there is a nursing shortage, but they make it extremely difficult to obtain registration.

Sorry but there is a cap in quite a few states as to the number of attempts that can be made without requiring a remedial program, and there are some that require that nursing training be completed again.

And yes, if one is wishing to get licensed in a state in the US that has specific restrictions, then they will not be able to get a license.

This is actually true in many other countries as well and not limited to the US and Canada.