VA Proficiency Nurse III Frustration & Appeal

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I am feeling frustrated with the entire VA NPSB proficiency process. At my hospital, it is a good old boys system in which board members promote their friends and the other managers and shut the door on others. I am a staff RN with a MSN and years of experience. I applied for my nurse III after completing a hospital wide project and doing other work that met the 9 dimensions.

This whole process has me frustrated beyond words. My profIciency has been lost by HR multiple times. My initial NPSB review said I didnt meet 7 of the 9 dimensions. Before submitting my proficiency, I had it reviewed by 3 former board members who all said I would meet for a 3. I submitted a request for reconsideration after the initial denial, and suddenly I met 6 out of 9 dimensions. I am now appealing my denial to VACO. Has anyone ever done this? What was he outcome, and how long did your appeal take to be answered after it was sent off?

I have been repeatedly been told by my own manager "you cannot get a 3 without working in management" and "it takes multiple submissions to get approved". I do not think this is correct. It may be harder to find the time and get approval for a project, but staff RNs cannot be essentially "blocked" from promotion. The dimensions are black and white, yet a subjective system is used to approve or deny proficiencies. It seems so unfair at my hospital. I've seen other nurses get promoted who were friends with board members, while other truly deserving RNs who meet the dimensions and make lasting changed within the hospital are shut out.

Any guidance and other nurses experience with this would be greatly appreciated. I love working with our Vets, but the good old boys club and the oppressive bureaucracy had me ready to bash my face into something. I feel defeated. Thanks all

Specializes in Utilization Review.

Apologies for taking so long to reply to everyone. Many of you are NP's I would be interested to see the process for you all. Salaries greatly vary depending on location. I have a great salary, but my job satisfaction is low. The job I do pays great and is fairly easy but I need a new career I can have passion for. I am starting my FNP Certificate, but I do not think the VA will be where I stay, it will be hard to leave but I do not think FNP's are compensated well, I hope I am wrong, but that is the way it seems. Dermatology is where I have passion and we have a great need in our area.

Specializes in nurse aide and medication aide.

Thank you RN4KU. I got it. I have a lot of revisions to make to my current draft. Praying it all goes in my favor.

Thank you so much for being willing to help everyone with their profiency! Hoping your willing to share with me as well! [email protected]

I happened upon this discussion while looking for information on how to write for the NPSB for my tentative offer. I am completely lost on how to write this well. I am coming off 14 years of military nursing and have been hired as a NP and Manager for a two site clinic. I am hoping to get the Nurse III level and need some help with where to start with proficiency examples. RN4KU - it looks like you have been a tremendous asset for other members. I'd really appreciate any help you could share. My email is [email protected]

Thank you!

Sorry, I've been so busy I haven't been o n the thread since accepting my offer. I'm still working two jobs, so I'm burning both ends of the candle. I'm sorry for bot getting back to you in a timely manner. It took over 5 months after I completed all of the necessary paperwork, background checks, and physical. It was a very slow process. I would be hesitant to send my proficiency because it pales in comparison to RN4KU's. I wouldnt want anyone to follow that. i got tiredwith writing it and kinda wrote to a Nurse 2. I'm grateful it worked out in my favor. My orientation has not been a great one. I'm starting out on a really busy gloor and they have been utilizing me as a floor nurse and have not learned any head nurse duties. The pay is great; however, I don't know how long I will be there. I worked long and hard to not be on the floor anymore.

Hello, I'm curious as to whether you ever got your RN3.... I am having the same issue. Please let me know how the appeal to VACO went.

Could you please assist me by sharing your proficiency you used to get RN 3? my email address is [email protected]

Hi, could you please send me a copy of your proficiency for promotion at the VA. I would really appreciate it. Email: [email protected]

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Thank you

Tammie

Could you please send me a copy?

Hi ma'am can you also help me with my proficiency for nurse 3. My email is [email protected] Thank you

Please do PM me your proficiency as well. Thank you!

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