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Good deal, i'll wait and hopefully get a response to that question. And for my last question of the night...How did you get contacted with your AF healthcare recruiter. When trying to get in touch with someone with the Navy this past month it seriously has been taking me forever to get contacted by a healthcare recruiter. Does it normally take awhile to talk with a healthcare recruiter and is it normally through phone calls or is it possible to set up a meeting to meet with someone in person? I'm only talking about the healthcare recruiters because from what you guys have been saying it's pretty much no good talking to a regular recruiter?
If you go on the live chat on the Air Force site, ask them to give you the number to the health care recruiter nearest you. Then give that number a call and go from there. Thats what I did and it's worked wonderfully!!
Good deal, i'll wait and hopefully get a response to that question. And for my last question of the night...How did you get contacted with your AF healthcare recruiter. When trying to get in touch with someone with the Navy this past month it seriously has been taking me forever to get contacted by a healthcare recruiter. Does it normally take awhile to talk with a healthcare recruiter and is it normally through phone calls or is it possible to set up a meeting to meet with someone in person? I'm only talking about the healthcare recruiters because from what you guys have been saying it's pretty much no good talking to a regular recruiter?
You should be able to find an AF Health Services Recruiter using the AF website and putting in your zip code I think. Be prepared to have lots of patience! The recruiter will probably tell you to keep in touch, get good grades, and check in every couple months. Until you get within a year of graduation there will probably not be much to be gained by meeting with a recruiter in person. They have lots of other applicants they're working with for current selection boards. They work with applicants for NTP boards, as well as boards for RNs applying for a commission through the fully-qualified boards...so they're constantly busy all the time. Also, keep in mind that most people in the AF move every 3-4 years, so it's very possible that whoever is the recruiter in your area right now will have been replaced in another couple years when you're ready to really get serious with the paperwork. That happened to me...the first one I talked to pretty much just got my info and told me to be patient and that his replacement would contact me in a few months :). Soooo...yeah...get ready to exercise a whole lotta patience!
Hope that helps
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I agree, patience is key but its going to be hard to deal with that being all amped up on excitement to learn about such a great opportunity! I wish i didn't discover this website till 2 years down the road lol I guess i can start my countdown of 730 days till i can actually turn in a application. Everyones input has been greatly appreciated tonight but work comes early in the AM so i'm shutting it down for the night. Good luck to everyone and i'll be sure to check back and see how all your guys applications turned out!
One other thing to add to what everyone else has said...I contacted my recruiter in December 2011/January of this year (which for me would have been a year and a half before my graduation) because I wanted to have time to work on the paperwork and my essay while I was on a break from school. That way I could really work hard on making the essay really good without having to worry about anything related to school. My recruiter was nice enough to give me everything to fill out back then and just told me to leave the dates off, and it all worked out really well. If you have a break like that from school a few months before you are a year from graduation, I would suggest asking your recruiter for at least the essay questions - hopefully they would be nice enough to give them to you.
Today my recruiter told me that the total number of applicants was about 300. I hope he is just misinformed. has anyone else heard 300? I'm so bummed right now. I also asked him if we chose OB and they didn't have the opening then if they just look at you for med surg. He said they may offer the med surg position. Does anyone have insight on this? I feel as though I am being mislead:(
Today my recruiter told me that the total number of applicants was about 300. I hope he is just misinformed. has anyone else heard 300? I'm so bummed right now. I also asked him if we chose OB and they didn't have the opening then if they just look at you for med surg. He said they may offer the med surg position. Does anyone have insight on this? I feel as though I am being mislead:(
My recruiter said 110 and someone else's said 80...so I would be surprise if 300 was the number..that's quite a big difference. :/
Today my recruiter told me that the total number of applicants was about 300. I hope he is just misinformed. has anyone else heard 300? I'm so bummed right now. I also asked him if we chose OB and they didn't have the opening then if they just look at you for med surg. He said they may offer the med surg position. Does anyone have insight on this? I feel as though I am being mislead:(
I REALLYYYYYY hope 300 isn't the case! At the most my recruiter possibly estimated was maybe 150! I haven't officially been told 110 but I am going to go with it since so many people have thrown that number out there!!!!!! Almost time guys! Let's all just keep our heads up and our fingers crossed!
hey guys, first time posting on here but i've been keeping up with it over the past couple of months. i'm on the facebook group as well. just to update everyone i emailed the colorado recruiter today for an update and he sent me back this:
hello!
as for your other questions:
i can only give you guesses on the total number of people. the average #
submitted in the other offices within the western region was 3.5. there is
24 offices nationwide so approx 84 total.
there are 40 med-surg and 6 ob openings available.
yes the 10th is the estimated release date. i guarantee you will be
contacted as soon as the results are released to us. they are released
nationwide at the same time so hang in there a bit longer. :)
respectfully,
steven r. kuberek, ssgt, usaf
health professions liaison
14241 e. 4th ave. ste. 354
aurora, co 80011
office: (303) 366-6814
cell: (303) 328-8377
fax: (303) 343-1020
so we can all agree that there would be no way for 300 applicants if the whole western states only sent in 50 + applications that would mean the other two regions would of had to submit 250 applicants. there is no way they have that volume. i think we all have a good shot with apporx 84 total applicants. from what i've been reading on other boards, the committee first looks at applicants whom are fully qualified meaning:
they have graduated
are licensed
of course everyone who went to the boards are already meps qualified.
the way the recruiter and others had explained it is that the air force would take those that have graduated and have their license already because they are safer bets. they don't have to wait on whether or not these applicants will graduate or pass their nclex before going to cot. if you are a year from graduation then they would assume that you will be graduating right around the same time as the next selection board. it doesn't make sense for them to take someone who is already "fully qualified" meaning they are already graduated and licensed over someone who is about to graduate in x amount of time. the reason they take applicants that are a year out from graduation is that in case they do not have enough fully qualified applicants or maybe they need to fill cot dates that are further out, or they use them as alternates in case something changes with a selected applicant as a backup. after looking at that it was also explained to me they will look at cumulative gpa not just nursing gpa as a cumulative gpa gives the board members a total view of one's educational success. you have to realize that in the air force you will be an officer first and a nurse second. granted cumulative gpa's don't really provide a good insight at someone's ability to learn but with the lack of experience that we all have in nursing it's going to be another key factor. after sorting those that are already qualified (graduated and licensed) and cumulative gpa then they look at what else you have been doing since graduation i.e. certifications (acls, bls), ce's and then whether or not you are working will also play a factor. it makes sense though because someone who has been out of work or just volunteering isn't practicing their nursing skills and if you aren't doing it you are likely to forget a lot making those who are working with under a year of exp stand out among other candidates. then they also look at your 9 question questionnaire, and see if your values align with the af. then they also take into consideration the lor's and what other people think of you and how well of an impression others have of you. also another important thing is what their peers have to say about you (chief nurse interview). they are the only person that has met you face to face. did they have a good impression of you? can they see you in af blues?
if you think about it it's really like applying for a job, an employer will want to make sure you are qualified to work (valid license, degree), personal accomplishments (certs, gpa, activities involved with, and personal references aka lor's). if you think about it like a job application it is easier to understand what they will be looking at.
it was explained to me that this is how they would weed through the 80+ applicants. first establish baseline criteria, for example lets first just look at those who are graduated, licensed, working and have a gpa above 3.5(random number could be higher). after filtering those applications out then they read those lor's, questionnaire, and chief nurse interview results. if they fill all their positions after looking at that then they stop hence why other past applicants had no comments when getting their results. if they still have spots to fill after that round of selections then they go to their next criteria, for example those who have everything but maybe a lower gpa, and then after that start looking at those still in school. sounds bad that they would look at those that are not graduated last, but in reality they really don't have a complete picture of those individuals yet. they only have a partial picture of them, and if they are still in school then why not select those that are done first and if everything is filled then they can apply to the next board when they completely done with school, and can get a better picture of them. this is not 100% but if you just stop and think about how you would narrow down selection for a job, then you would do it like this because it makes total sense and it's how employers in the civilian world do it. sorry for such a long post lol.
Today my recruiter told me that the total number of applicants was about 300. I hope he is just misinformed. has anyone else heard 300? I'm so bummed right now. I also asked him if we chose OB and they didn't have the opening then if they just look at you for med surg. He said they may offer the med surg position. Does anyone have insight on this? I feel as though I am being mislead:(
Was told at the beginning of application process that if you apply for either med/surg or ob then you are not considered for the other. Our recruiter in CO contacted some of us that chose OB and asked if we wanted to change to med/surg when he found out the final number of 40 med/surg and 6 ob. Hope that helps answer your question.
hey guys, first time posting on here but i've been keeping up with it over the past couple of months. i'm on the facebook group as well. just to update everyone i emailed the colorado recruiter today for an update and he sent me back this:hello!
as for your other questions:
i can only give you guesses on the total number of people. the average #
submitted in the other offices within the western region was 3.5. there is
24 offices nationwide so approx 84 total.
there are 40 med-surg and 6 ob openings available.
yes the 10th is the estimated release date. i guarantee you will be
contacted as soon as the results are released to us. they are released
nationwide at the same time so hang in there a bit longer. :)
respectfully,
steven r. kuberek, ssgt, usaf
health professions liaison
14241 e. 4th ave. ste. 354
aurora, co 80011
office: (303) 366-6814
cell: (303) 328-8377
fax: (303) 343-1020
so we can all agree that there would be no way for 300 applicants if the whole western states only sent in 50 + applications that would mean the other two regions would of had to submit 250 applicants. there is no way they have that volume. i think we all have a good shot with apporx 84 total applicants. from what i've been reading on other boards, the committee first looks at applicants whom are fully qualified meaning:
they have graduated
are licensed
of course everyone who went to the boards are already meps qualified.
the way the recruiter and others had explained it is that the air force would take those that have graduated and have their license already because they are safer bets. they don't have to wait on whether or not these applicants will graduate or pass their nclex before going to cot. if you are a year from graduation then they would assume that you will be graduating right around the same time as the next selection board. it doesn't make sense for them to take someone who is already "fully qualified" meaning they are already graduated and licensed over someone who is about to graduate in x amount of time. the reason they take applicants that are a year out from graduation is that in case they do not have enough fully qualified applicants or maybe they need to fill cot dates that are further out, or they use them as alternates in case something changes with a selected applicant as a backup. after looking at that it was also explained to me they will look at cumulative gpa not just nursing gpa as a cumulative gpa gives the board members a total view of one's educational success. you have to realize that in the air force you will be an officer first and a nurse second. granted cumulative gpa's don't really provide a good insight at someone's ability to learn but with the lack of experience that we all have in nursing it's going to be another key factor. after sorting those that are already qualified (graduated and licensed) and cumulative gpa then they look at what else you have been doing since graduation i.e. certifications (acls, bls), ce's and then whether or not you are working will also play a factor. it makes sense though because someone who has been out of work or just volunteering isn't practicing their nursing skills and if you aren't doing it you are likely to forget a lot making those who are working with under a year of exp stand out among other candidates. then they also look at your 9 question questionnaire, and see if your values align with the af. then they also take into consideration the lor's and what other people think of you and how well of an impression others have of you. also another important thing is what their peers have to say about you (chief nurse interview). they are the only person that has met you face to face. did they have a good impression of you? can they see you in af blues?
if you think about it it's really like applying for a job, an employer will want to make sure you are qualified to work (valid license, degree), personal accomplishments (certs, gpa, activities involved with, and personal references aka lor's). if you think about it like a job application it is easier to understand what they will be looking at.
it was explained to me that this is how they would weed through the 80+ applicants. first establish baseline criteria, for example lets first just look at those who are graduated, licensed, working and have a gpa above 3.5(random number could be higher). after filtering those applications out then they read those lor's, questionnaire, and chief nurse interview results. if they fill all their positions after looking at that then they stop hence why other past applicants had no comments when getting their results. if they still have spots to fill after that round of selections then they go to their next criteria, for example those who have everything but maybe a lower gpa, and then after that start looking at those still in school. sounds bad that they would look at those that are not graduated last, but in reality they really don't have a complete picture of those individuals yet. they only have a partial picture of them, and if they are still in school then why not select those that are done first and if everything is filled then they can apply to the next board when they completely done with school, and can get a better picture of them. this is not 100% but if you just stop and think about how you would narrow down selection for a job, then you would do it like this because it makes total sense and it's how employers in the civilian world do it. sorry for such a long post lol.
this is amazing, thank you! it really does all make complete sense! i actually went through the same recruiter and he did and is still doing an awesome job! :)
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Yes, you'll go in as a 2Lt. At the 2 year mark from the date you got your commission, you'll pin on 1Lt. 2 years later you'll pin on Captain. So if you were accepted fall of summer 2014 after you graduate, fall of 2018 you'll be an O-3. From there, you'll meet promotion "boards" to advance. The first 3 ranks are just given to you based on time in service, as long as you are progressing in training and dont get in trouble. Not hard for most folks. After that, there are more requirements that will be expected of you than just years of time in service. More secondary education...minimum skills in your career field...etc. Most officers stay at the rank of Captain for about 4-5 years before being promoted to Major, but it's possible for it to take more or less time than that. From Major to LtCol is usually another few years, and so on. If you're motivated, aggressive and try hard, you can usually promote well in the USAF and its comparable or even better than the rate at which you'll promote in a similar civilian career.
Here's another suggestion...write all your questions down on a big list, and when you get in contact with a recruiter, ask him or her to help you get in contact with an AF nurse and ask them all the questions you can think of.
Hope that helps :)
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