US RN or FNP work in UK, Ireland, Scottland, Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand??

Silverdragon102, BSN · Aug 6, 2008

You would have to go through the NMC or both your RN and NP how ever NP are still trying to get proper recognition by the NMC and am sure Sharrie one of the other UK mods will be able to give more info there. For the EU in general you may find it hard to get anyone to assist with a work permit as general requirements for the EU are own citizen then EU before rest of the world. NP in other countries may not be the same as in the US so may have some problems. I hope you get where you want but be prepared for a long journey and probably some mountains to climb. Good luck

allnurses Guide · Aug 6, 2008

I will try to answer as much as I can, as SD has already mentioned it is very difficult to get work in the UK at the moment, there have been changes to the shortage occupation list and most nursing is no longer listed.

http://www.workpermit.com/uk/work_permit/occupations.htm

"Nurses:

Registered Nurse employed or engaged at Band 7 or Band 8 of Agenda for Change or their Independent sector equivalents in the following specialties:

Operating Theatre Nurse
Critical Care (nurses working in wards with a Level 2 or Level 3 classification)"

Band 7 or 8 nursing post are few and still priority has to be given to UK nurses first.

We have nurse practitioners in the UK and the nursing and midwifery council is working towards getting these registered as an Advanced Practitioner on a seperate part of the register, this has not yet happened but will happen in the near future.

You will need to look at this "Overseas Nurses" to see if there is anything extra you need to do for registration.

Also have a look at this consultation document about advanced practice nursing

As far a pay, Nurse practitioners can be on anything from a band 6 to band 8. Pay scales are below:

Band 6

Point 23 £24,103

Point 24 £25,054

Point 25 £26,123

Point 26 £27,191

Point 27 £28,141

Point 28 £29,091

Point 29 £30,041

Point 30 £31,109

Point 31 £32,653

Band 7

Point 28 £29,091

Point 29 £30,041

Point 30 £31,109

Point 31 £32,653

Point 32 £33,603

Point 33 £34,672

Point 34 £35,859

Point 35 £37,106

Point 36 £38,352

Band 8 Range A

Point 35 £37,106

Point 36 £38,352

Point 37 £39,896

Point 38 £41,439

Point 39 £43,221

Point 40 £44,527

You would start at the lowest increment and these then increase yearly.

So you may be lucky and find one that falls into the shortage occupation catagory, the familiy nurse practitioners work alongside our General Practitioners and are employed by that practice rather than a hospital trust. Now I am a hospital nurse practitioner so I have an idea what they do but not exact specifics. Generally they tend to manage the chronic condition patients leaving the GP's with the acute and complex patients. I am sure if this is not quite right Karen G will pop along in a minute and correct me.

Nurses can have prescribing priviledges but this is after a 6 month masters level course on prescribing, you are then registered seperatley with the NMC as a nurse prescriber.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Aug 6, 2008

So you may be lucky and find one that falls into the shortage occupation catagory, the familiy nurse practitioners work alongside our General Practitioners and are employed by that practice rather than a hospital trust. Now I am a hospital nurse practitioner so I have an idea what they do but not exact specifics. Generally they tend to manage the chronic condition patients leaving the GP's with the acute and complex patients. I am sure if this is not quite right Karen G will pop along in a minute and correct me.
Nurses can have prescribing priviledges but this is after a 6 month masters level course on prescribing, you are then registered seperatley with the NMC as a nurse prescriber.

My experience with the NP that I worked with in my last job in a GP surgery was she saw her own set of patients and many were complex and acute, there was no distinction when patients rang for appointments. A lot of the time chronic conditions was managed by the practice nurse in chronic disease clinics unless the patient was ill then they saw the GP/NP. The only thing the NP didn't do was home visits, because she was a nurse prescriber she did a lot of the medication queries which occurred when patients was re ordering their repeat prescriptions, plus lots of other things and at times reception staff would use her for advice instead of disturbing the doctors not understanding she had her own workload and they caused delays to her :rolleyes:

SarasotaRN2b · Aug 13, 2008

"Nurses:
Registered Nurse employed or engaged at Band 7 or Band 8 of Agenda for Change or their Independent sector equivalents in the following specialties:
Operating Theatre Nurse
Critical Care (nurses working in wards with a Level 2 or Level 3 classification)"
Band 7 or 8 nursing post are few and still priority has to be given to UK nurses first.

Hey Sharrie, what is meant by Level 2 or Level 3 classification?

Thanks,

Kris

allnurses Guide · Aug 13, 2008

Kris the classifications relate to the dependency of the patient

Level 2 is HDU

Level 3 is ITU

Have a look at this is explains the levels a bit more

SarasotaRN2b · Aug 13, 2008

Kris the classifications relate to the dependency of the patient
Level 2 is HDU
Level 3 is ITU
Have a look at this is explains the levels a bit more

Hi Sharrie, thanks for the link. Wouldn't a NICU fit into one of these 2 categories? I know that where I work, we've a few babies that are on vents and some that required 1:1 nursing care.

Kris

allnurses Guide · Aug 13, 2008

Kris yes NICU definately fits in the level 2 and 3, in fact many of the neonatal units are split within the unit between HDU babes, ITU babes and those that are ready for discharge.

Also I think NICU is one of the critical care specialities that is in short supply

SarasotaRN2b · Aug 13, 2008

Kris yes NICU definately fits in the level 2 and 3, in fact many of the neonatal units are split within the unit between HDU babes, ITU babes and those that are ready for discharge.
Also I think NICU is one of the critical care specialities that is in short supply

Yeah, that makes total sense. My current unit is considered a level 3. We have about 15 babies that need intensive care and then we have a progressive nursery where they need special care but not as intensive and then if our census really gets high as when we had our quads born at 28 weeks, a few of our babies that were close to discharge was sent up to Pediatrics.

Thanks again, Sharrie. As always you are a wealth of info!

allnurses Guide · Jan 2, 2010

There are very few NPs in Australia and they are certainly not utilized anything like the US. As a NICU RN, you could easily earn $60-80Kpa depending on where, when, and how often you work.