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Transferring to another Kaiser Hospital

Just wanted to ask Kaiser RN's who transferred to another Kaiser location... did they transfer PTO, sick and life balance hours? Or. did your previous Kaiser location gave you a check for the balance? Also, did you carry your original hire date or they changed it To your new hire date? (For seniority purposes) thank you!

NickiLaughs, ADN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma, Critical Care.

You keep all your benefits. You SHOULD keep your seniority however if you transfer from a hospital that has one contract to another with a different contract you might lose your seniority. For example, I'm in Sacramento and I work with a couple nurses who transferred from San Diego. They lot all their seniority with the transfer because CNA is a different contract then whoever was their union in San Diego. Sort of sucks.

Thanks... does that mean I still keep my seniority during vacation bidding? ( granted it's the same union)

If you are going from a Kaiser North to another Kaiser North it's a seamless transfer . If you are going from North to south or vice versa benefits change and so does pay. Seniority does not change because your date of hire is still the same. You will bump somebody down.

NickiLaughs, ADN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma, Critical Care.

I was told something different. A couple RNs who had been working at kaiser for ged from south to north and they said they lost about 10 years of seniority with the move because it was a different union....I thought they weren't telling the truth until I got better schedules then them and they were lower on seniority list Lame.

I work for Kaiser in socal and am planning to transfer to NorCal. I spoke to my union and I will lose all seniority with job bids and holidays vacations etc. my hire date stays the same and vacation sick leave etc transfers. Hope that helps.

You gals are both right. My friend transferred from San Diego to Norcal recently and date of hire of course is the same but not on the higher pecking order as she found out after telling me that information. That is lame.

NickiLaughs, ADN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma, Critical Care.

It's because they're different unions. Hubby wants to move back to Southern California and the loss of seniority plus the pay cut is a hard pill to swallow.

OK, let me chip in and clarify a few things.

I am working for Kaiser Sunset for almost 15 years, our place went through multiple unions already and I was in union business for a while, so I know all perks first hand.

Seniority. If you transfer between Kaiser hospital with the same union. You keep your Kaiser seniority - important for raises and vocation accumulation, and in case of lay offs, it is done based on Kaiser seniority. To my best memory, when in the 90' Sunset Kaiser laid off bunch of nurses, it was done based on 10 years Kaiser seniority. Union department seniority will put on hold for one year, meaning that you would not able to bump anyone within your first year of transfer, but later you would. When applying for transfer for an open position, first priority is given to nurses within the same location, second outside nurses with the same union, third nurses with Kaiser seniority, forth everybody else.

If you transfer from different union Kaiser hospital, you keep only Kaiser seniority and perks associated with it.

ICUman

Specializes in Cardiac Cath Lab.

Is it really that difficult to be hired by Kaiser as an outside applicant?

Is it really that difficult to be hired by Kaiser as an outside applicant?

It is possible. I know there is an new employee orientation right now every 2 weeks. However, Kaiser's tactics (for outsiders) are to hire per Diem first, than, if qualified, offer full time. So if you are ready for this hiring track, you have a chance.

Any Kaiser facility in California offers very good benefits. Short summary for health:

Doctor visit $5

Any prescription medication through Kaiser pharmacy $5

Over the counter meds, certain % off

hospital stay - free

A lot of tests, like MRI, CT and XRAY are free

Lately, in new contract (Kaiser Sunset) Emergency now went up to $50

Not bad Union protection, 4 disciplinary levels with #5 termination. If you got, for an example, level 1 and survived one year without incidents, this level 1 will be automatically erased and if you get the same problem on 1 year plus 1 day, you still will get level 1 and so on.

Plus recent pay increase. I don't have contract now to produce numbers, but can say only about 10 year seniority pay for Med Surge about $60/hr, Tele about $1 more, ICU another $1 more approximately, MAX after 25 years around $80-85/hr. Those numbers are for Southern California, Northern even more. And 2.5% raise every year or something like this, can be wrong here, but not less than.

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Yes its hard but not impossible.

It's because they're different unions. Hubby wants to move back to Southern California and the loss of seniority plus the pay cut is a hard pill to swallow.

If moving to Kaiser Sunset location, then there are possibilities as it has CNA as Northern Calfornia, at least for seniority. If moving from San Francisco (very high cost of living) and get position at Sunset location, there would not be that much a diference, as cost of living here is cheaper.

However, word of caution.

Kaiser Sunset is not an easy place to work, certain departments are stuffed now only around 50% permanents or less, the rest are travelers. Alot of new grads are not surviving the pressure as Kaiser now is trying to become magnet hospital. It was much, much better 10 years ago or so. A lot of weak Unions passed through, management used this situation, now we suffer.

Everyone is friendly (nurses and lower admins), but higher management generally not nurse friendly, to say the least, and so on....

NickiLaughs, ADN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma, Critical Care.

If moving to Kaiser Sunset location, then there are possibilities as it has CNA as Northern Calfornia, at least for seniority. If moving from San Francisco (very high cost of living) and get position at Sunset location, there would not be that much a diference, as cost of living here is cheaper.

Sacramento has the same contract as the bay area, and cost of living is MUCH cheaper than LA. And LA's contract is still much lower.

I am aware of this, lucky you (not living in San Francisco, in terms of cost of living).

I don't want to start here UNION wars, but we get what we deserved. Our hospital had a chance to get Teamsters in, with about the same pay rate, but much better benefits, including pension plan, which was matching approximately 1:7 (if you contribute $100K, which is MAX, when you retire, you will get $700K).

Oh well what is done is done.

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