Threatened to be Fired for "patient safety" issues.

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Hi, I am a new grad looking for some advice or opinions on this issue I am having. I have been working for 6 months at a hospital and have been having some problems there. At my interview, my NM for some reason told me that it annoys her when people call in sick to take care of their children and questioned me about my race because I have an ethnic last name. I thought she was strange, but decided to accept her job offer anyways a couple weeks later. Anyhow, I discovered I was pregnant with my first child shortly thereafter. I felt it my duty to inform my upcoming NM about the situation and she was very apprehensive, asking me how much time I would need off for leave and if I still planned to work full time day/nights. I told her not to worry, my job would come first.

Once I started orientation, my doctor placed me on a 25 pound weight lifting restriction due to the pregnancy. My NM told me that if I brought in that note, I would not be able to work at all because I no longer fit the job description of being able to lift a minimum of 50 pounds. I consulted with my union and then opted to not bring in the note.

Shortly thereafter, I was rear-ended by another motorist on my way to work and placed on a 5 pound weight lifting restriction for 2 weeks. My NM was less than pleased. She placed me on leave without pay for that time. She said she probably could have accomodated me, but was not required to, since it wasn't an on-the-job injury.

Needless to say, I was not on my NM's good side. I was also exhausted from my pregnancy and not always feeling well. However, I dutifully came to work everyday.

After working with a preceptor for 2 weeks, I was placed on my own with the most difficult patient on the floor. I made a medication error at this time. I did not know the procedure for removing fentanyl patches and removed one early. After that, I was placed back with a preceptor for an additional 2 months or so. I made one more medication error (gave wrong dosage of tylenol) and then made a medication error in conjunction with another nurse. It was another nurse's patient and she had set the IV pump to end early. It was the night shift and I didn't see that there was still about 75 ml of medication left in the bag as it was also covered with foil to protect it from light. This was over the course of 3 months or so.

During this 3 months of orientation, my NM suggested that I look for jobs elsewhere and that the other nurses did not like me. She told me there was no positive feedback about my performance. I knew that there had been, however, because I had feedback from other nurses who told me that they had gone to my NM with positive feedback. At the time, I told my NM that I was not going to quit and that I felt she was creating a hostile work environment for me. She let up and gave me a positive review at my 3 month review, saying that I was "right where I needed to be".

Things were going well for a couple months. There were a couple times that I didn't know the policy for my floor regarding certain situations. For example, I didn't know that after a patient falls, we were to institute neuro checks every 15 minutes for so long and then every 2 hours for so long. I also didn't know that insulin would have to be double checked by another nurse to avoid giving the wrong amount.

But once I made one mistake, especially a procedural mistake, I never made it again. I always learned and never did something the wrong way twice. I put a lot of effort into my nursing practice. Later on, I ended up disconnecting a patient from an IV for a half hour to take him to the bathroom, then found out I wasn't allowed to do that.

About a month ago, my NM accused me of making some kind of boundary violation with a patient because I had visited him during my shift to see how he was doing while he was on another unit temporarily. The patient confessed that he had a crush on me and I told the charge nurse, who rather than advising me to no longer accept him as my patient, told my NM that she felt that I was encouraging him. Turns out she advised me incorrectly and I should have refused to work with him again after that. I went to the union about this and they totally reamed my NM out. About a month later, I gave Vicodin to a patient too soon after he'd had his last dose and my NM put together a packet of allegations and threatened to fire me.

I was told by other staff recently that my NM had been collecting this information from day one, asking people to write down mistakes that I made. She kept a personal file on me and then denied me access to it. A couple things in the packet were never brought up to me. No positive information about me was included in the packet.

So, now I am up for a hospital board hearing to determine my future with this hospital. My feeling is that I've made mistakes, but none of them has been serious. The last one was probably my most serious mistake because rather than giving this patient another dose of vicodin, I should have called the doc to ask permission. That one is probably inexcusable, but the others I feel were genuinely education-related.

My gut feeling is that my NM has not liked me from day one and the fact that I have made mistakes has been great for her because she's been collecting evidence. She doesn't like the fact that I started pregnant, that I've gone to the union several times, and probably just plain doesn't like my personality.

So my question is, have I really been that unsafe that I should be fired? How many and what sorts of mistakes do new nurses generally make? I really want to learn from this experience and have been doubting my nursing practice. Thanks.

Specializes in CTICU.

Just to add, I'm coming in late because I haven't seen this post before. First off, congrats on your new son!

Sounds like the NM was a nightmare, and I understand that you've accepted and learned from your mistakes...BUT:

I too am concerned that you made multiple errors. I DO consider some of them "serious medical errors" although you do not appear to. It is definitely the facility's responsibility to train you properly HOWEVER... it is YOUR responsibility to protect your license by making yourself aware of your employer's policies and procedures and following them. Ignorance or poor training is NOT a defense in these cases.

You do sound like a person who accepts responsibility for your actions both good and bad, and we need more people like you in nursing. Continue to educate yourself, and hopefully you find a ward that is a great fit for you, with a supportive environment in which to learn.

First I am glad you have a lawyer. Second the lawyer gave you great advice about taking courses about medication management. Follow up on that. I know that that there are two sides to every story but I think that fact you are working on those issues shows me you a nurse I would like to work with.

Enjoy your baby! Look for a job that is family friendly. You don't want to feel pressure everytime you kid doesn't feel well. These places may not pay the best but the piece of mind is priceless.

Hopefully the board will see this a nuisance complaint, the only thing that would make me crazy is paying a lawyer ( which you have to do).

Thank you for the support. I have been taking continuing education courses on medication safety, as well as nursing in general. I plan to go into my next job much more prepared. I now realize that it is in my power to try to prevent these situations by being proactive about getting the training that I need. I guess as a new grad, I was in a vulnerable place really not knowing what sort of training that I needed until it was too late. It's really too bad that I had to go through this experience to learn that and honestly, I am very nervous to get another job in nursing because I have lost confidence in myself. So I am trying to be as educated as possible now before even seriously looking for a new job in nursing. I am considering school nursing part time.

I also hope that the board will be understanding and see it from my perspective- that I am working on educating myself and that I was also in a hostile environment at my facility. I also fully understand now how my license can be easily compromised by my actions and plan to be much, much more careful in the future.

Don't be too shy coming back that will look bad too. Everybody understands a bad fit when it comes to a position.

Specializes in Management, Emergency, Psych, Med Surg.

You need to get yourself an attorney, one that has a speciality in labor law and run all this by him/ her. First of all, under the labor laws it is against the law to ask anyone about their nationality or about how many children they have etc. In addition, they cannot take disciplinary action against you just because you are PG. You are allow to ask a potential employee if they have an adequate way to get to work and will they be able to b on time. Your "errors" sound rather trite and there is something else going on with this manager. It appears from what you say that you are outside your 90 day probationary period and you do not qualify for FMLA because you have not been in this position for at least one year. You need to decide if you want this job or not. Once the union or an attorney brings an action against them, it will turn out to be an all out war and the NM will really be after you then. It is a shame that you do have someone higher up the food chain to talk to. Can you request transfer to another area?. Can you ask your union rep to set up a meeting with HR, her manager and ask for a transfer.

Well, it's too late to ask for a transfer. I did attempt to get a job in another unit towards the beginning of my time there, but my manager gave me a negative reference (after only a few weeks!). I should have tried harder to get into another unit before things got really bad, but I thought I could work it out on the unit if I tried hard enough. I ended up quitting because it was driving me up the wall and working all my nerves. Basically, I've been on maternity leave since then. I have retained an attorney and we are working on some EEOC stuff. I have not heard from the BON as of this time. I agree that there was more going on than errors. I am planning to return to work at some point, but probably not in a hospital setting for now.

The one thing I don't understand is how you didn't know the requirement for a second nurse with insulin. That should have been part of orientation. I am in NUrsing Quality and it seems to me that you have had more than your share of occurrences. I do not work in a union hospital but here while you are on probation you can be let go for almost any reason if you are not working out.

I would be very careful from now on and seek the advice of a trsuted co-worker to prevent making any errors in the future

It seems like the BON is not too concerened about your nursing practice ( which is very good). Home care is a good place where you can only see one patient at a time. Also usually they are flexible about child care issues.

Give the baby a big kiss.

Thanks for the continuing support. I have still not heard from the BON and my time with my new baby has been great.

Believe it or not, I was never oriented on the fact the you need a second nurse to verify insulin dose. Since then, I've been told that this is a very basic part of orientation. Hence, I do believe that my orientation was lacking (in probably more than a couple areas).

Like I said before, I am a little nervous about going back to work, but I do plan on returning within a few months or so and have learned how important it is to get the training that I need and not take any risks with my license. If I feel uncomfortable with anything, rather then feel pressured into taking an inappropriate patient assignment (complicated patients too soon, etc), I will speak up.

I remember being assigned the most difficult patient on the unit within a couple weeks of starting. They had also stopped assigning me to a preceptor at that time. Even though I was a new grad and had only been on the unit a couple weeks. Anyways, I made an error at that time, as well as had a very difficult time dealing with this patient. That shouldn't have happened and in the future, I will not accept an assignment that is too advanced.

Are you sure that they reported you to the BON? It seems like if you were a real threat they would have to move faster than this.

Don't let this shaky start to nursing let your education go down the drain. Is there any one from your nursing school that you could trust and talk to ? They will know the local climate.

Glad to her your baby is doing well, enjoy.

I can't believe it's been 7 months since this all happened! I have not returned to the workplace yet. I decided to take a longer maternity leave of one year. I have continued to take continuing education modules online to stay on top of and hopefully improve my practice.

I have NOT heard from the BON. They had requested more information from the hospital several months ago. However, I have not heard from them. So I have my doubts that they consider this a serious case.

Unfortunately, at this juncture, my former employer is badmouthing me. I know because I hired a professional reference checker to see what she was saying about me. She cited my youth as my only asset to the profession of nursing and stated that she felt I endanger the lives of patients. She said other negative things, of course.

Anyways, does anyone have recommendations as to how to get a job after this ordeal? Obviously, I can't be listing her as a reference after the things she has said about me. I suppose I should also be clear, however, that the hospital that I worked for did not have a great reputation. It is considered to be the bottom of the barrel in my state. Perhaps that will make a difference one way or another.

From what I have heard from others, not listing them as a reference is likely not an option. Any suggestions???? I just want to move on with my life and career!

I can't believe it's been 7 months since this all happened! I have not returned to the workplace yet. I decided to take a longer maternity leave of one year. I have continued to take continuing education modules online to stay on top of and hopefully improve my practice.

I have NOT heard from the BON. They had requested more information from the hospital several months ago. However, I have not heard from them. So I have my doubts that they consider this a serious case.

Unfortunately, at this juncture, my former employer is badmouthing me. I know because I hired a professional reference checker to see what she was saying about me. She cited my youth as my only asset to the profession of nursing and stated that she felt I endanger the lives of patients. She said other negative things, of course.

Anyways, does anyone have recommendations as to how to get a job after this ordeal? Obviously, I can't be listing her as a reference after the things she has said about me. I suppose I should also be clear, however, that the hospital that I worked for did not have a great reputation. It is considered to be the bottom of the barrel in my state. Perhaps that will make a difference one way or another.

From what I have heard from others, not listing them as a reference is likely not an option. Any suggestions???? I just want to move on with my life and career!

leaving them off your resume is not acceptable, but i would say they were not to be contacted....this of course will throw up a red flag of its own.....but if you get good enough other references .....good luck

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