Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)

Summerday28 · Nov 12, 2023

nursingstudent333333 said:

I am as well and I am hoping someone has more information on Drexel's program. That program does seem very intense considering they do have an exit examination before you graduate. As you mentioned it is also 11 months which is intense. But to be honest all of these ABSN programs will be intense no matter what and Drexel has far better NCLEX examination scores. I also think there are obviously almost always reviews about disorganization for any ABSN program. Drexel's scores are almost always in the mid 90s ranges and for 2022 I believe it was around 87%. We really need to see which would not cause a risk for us being able to graduate and sit for NCLEX testing. While the Drexel program does seem harder and more intense I really think it does a better job in preparing students for the NCLEX examination which is essentially what we need. I am nervous though, again this is just a waiting game it's a difficult choice. One school is at risk of their status and the other is far more intense. I also think Drexel is way more expensive so I am also just keeping my options open and waiting for any new updates from the school.

That's definitely true as well. All of them are going to be super hard, have high fees if you miss clinical, and will push you to your limits. I saw Drexel's scores as well, I mean they're definitely unmatched when compared to TJU. Drexel also frequently changes their curriculum, based on what I've read. Probably why they have a good pass rate. But that exit examination scares me. Studying for midterms, NCLEX, and the exit exam is going to be absolutely brutal. But it seems it offers the best prep for the NCLEX.

While all ABSN programs are going to be stressful nonetheless, I do want a program that's going to be suitable for my learning speed and needs. None of these programs are meant to prep you for a nursing job, but to pass your boards. Resuming search for another ABSN means, for me, more prerequisites. And I really don't want to pay anywhere from $500-$2000 for an additional prereq for a school I MAY not even end up going to. It's frustrating! Also, FAFSA literally opens next month.

Summerday28 · Nov 12, 2023

nursingstudent333333 said:

The dean has stated they have accreditation until 2031 but if they keep falling below that 80%, the average of three consecutive years will decline. The board factors in the averages of the past three years I believe. Accreditation until 2031 honestly means nothing if the school is not able to maintain those 80% above averages, because all boards will see the drop so there is risk of loosing that as well if it continues to go lower. I really gravitated towards this program because of that automatic acceptance to grad school which is why this is unfortunate as well. I think there is a specific counselor at the school that is for the DNP and MSN programs that could possibly help answer that question but then again their answers will be in the benefit of the school.

It doesn't mean anything that they're accredited to 2031 if their average keeps dropping, which is why I don't know why the dean even mentioned that haha. Probably to reassure us, but still! What would reassure us is straight answers. I'm hoping she'll respond to me sometime next week.

I could potentially ask one of the admissions reps for the DNP/MSN programs, but you're right, they're probably gonna be tight-lipped regarding the accreditation issue.

incomingrn99 · Nov 12, 2023

nursingstudent333333 said:

I did receive an update from the dean that the pass rate for 2022-2023 has improved to a 90% and they are awaiting a notification from the PA board to return to full approval status, which will happen this January. This is before our start date in May and at this point most of us have made a deposit so it is a waiting game. It has gone up significantly after that from a 79.40% to a 90%. Now this is better news but the board reviews scores every year so if the score for October 2023-September 2024 falls below again, there is still risk of going back to provisional approval status for the second time. I am just not sure why she has not made an announcement yet on the improvement of a 90% score, I am assuming she is waiting to return to full approval status in January in order to send out an official email. It is reassuring to hear the last known recorded scores were better, but there is still that risk of that 2023-2024 year evaluation of scores and whether or not the score will be above 80%. If the school's score is looked at every year and they fall below again in October 2023-September 2024, I am assuming there will be two years again for the school to show improvement again and we would be the 2024-2025 cohort, which would have us in the CLEAR in order to graduate and sit for the NCLEX. I am sorry if this sounds very confusing, this is a lot to take in and I know everyone may be a little frantic on the next steps after hearing this news.

To make it clear, the score in Oct 2021- September 2022 was 79.40%. The score for Oct 2022-September 2023 was 90%. The dean is awaiting for the board to return the school to full status and will get the notification in January. If the score for Oct 2023- September 2024 falls below again, I am assuming there will be two years again in order to have the PA board reevaluate which would be October 2025. When our cohort ends it will be May 2025, which is before October 2025. I am not sure if I am getting the dates right and it is hard to assume because I am not aware of when exactly the evaluations are done and scoring is released. But this news is a little more on the positive side, considering our time frame on graduating because even if it falls that Oct 2023-September 2024 year, we would finish before that two year evaluation again. I hope that makes sense!

Is anyone looking into changing their plans or anything yet? I mean if we have placed a deposit it honestly will be dependent on any news we get in January before we start. Right now I feel like I may be looking into deferring my decision for TJU. It is just hard because I want to trust that the school won't fall in scores again but it is hard to confirm if we would be in the safe zone until we graduate. It is very tedious to know when exactly they evaluate and scores are released. I am not sure if this is worth the risk..Please let me know if you guys have any updates or are willing to share any next steps you have after this news!

Honestly, with this in mind I feel more relieved. If they did improve their NCLEX pass rates to 90%, I will not defer my seat at Jefferson. As stated before, this will allow them to regain full approval status. And if the next class were to go below the 80%, the program would be placed on provisional approval and have 2 years to improve their scores. Only until after those 2 years could they possibly lose accreditation, and by Spring 2025 we will have graduated so I wouldn't be concerned about not being allowed to attain licensure. Being as though Jefferson is a popular and well-known institution, I doubt they will lose their accreditation completely. However, this is my opinion contingent on the basis that the class actually did improve their scores to 90%. If Jefferson loses accreditation, I have my backup schools. However Jefferson is my top choice

albo · Nov 14, 2023

Hi all! I just received my acceptance today for the Fact-1 program! I'm so excited! My application had been put on a hold for my final grades this semester (I'm currently taking 2 prerequisite courses) but I sent them in my midterm grades to show them how I was doing, and today I got my acceptance! I'm so excited!! Has anyone created a facebook group for our cohort? Would love to connect with more classmates!

albo · Nov 30, 2023

I just put my deposit down and accepted my offer of admission! I'm so excited!!

albo · Dec 1, 2023

Hello! I have created a facebook group for the Fact-1 Pre-Fall 2024 cohort for the center city campus. Please request to join if you would like to connect! Thanks!

https://www.facebook.com/share/tgQZQNwtvJgxFVCq/?mibextid=K35XfP

incomingrn99 · Dec 3, 2023

albo said:

Hi all! I just received my acceptance today for the Fact-1 program! I'm so excited! My application had been put on a hold for my final grades this semester (I'm currently taking 2 prerequisite courses) but I sent them in my midterm grades to show them how I was doing, and today I got my acceptance! I'm so excited!! Has anyone created a facebook group for our cohort? Would love to connect with more classmates!

Congratulations ???

albo said:

Hello! I have created a facebook group for the Fact-1 Pre-Fall 2024 cohort for the center city campus. Please request to join if you would like to connect! Thanks!

https://www.facebook.com/share/tgQZQNwtvJgxFVCq/?mibextid=K35XfP

Joined! Thanks so much for making this ?

primordiapichu · Dec 3, 2023

Yall are going to come back to this thread in 6 months and say "she was right, this school is horrible" lmao

incomingrn99 · Dec 3, 2023

primordiapichu said:

Yall are going to come back to this thread in 6 months and say "she was right, this school is horrible" lmao

I'm sure all, if not most of us, appreciate your feedback and input on the program. But the way you keep coming back with the negativity is a bit off putting. Maybe wish the best for us and hope things are better for us rather than being negative about it

Summerday28 · Dec 3, 2023

primordiapichu said:

Yall are going to come back to this thread in 6 months and say "she was right, this school is horrible" lmao

Academia in general is corrupt and sucks but we make the most of it. It's a 12 month program. We all have one goal in mind: to get our BSN and gtfo, and pursue our main interests. Will we struggle? Probably. Will we hate the program? Possibility. Are there better, cheaper ABSN programs with short time spans? Subjective, but could be unlikely. I appreciate the warning but tbh its not gonna change my mind and probably won't change anyone else's. But thank you again, the input from another perspective was helpful

incomingrn99 · Dec 3, 2023

Agreed. I'm grateful I was accepted and I'm excited to start. I know it's not going to be perfect, no program is perfect, but I'm just gonna make the best of our program!

Summerday28 said:

Academia in general is corrupt and sucks but we make the most of it. It's a 12 month program. We all have one goal in mind: to get our BSN and gtfo, and pursue our main interests. Will we struggle? Probably. Will we hate the program? Possibility. Are there better, cheaper ABSN programs with short time spans? Subjective, but could be unlikely. I appreciate the warning but tbh its not gonna change my mind and probably won't change anyone else's. But thank you again, the input from another perspective was helpful

Agreed. I'm grateful I was accepted and I'm excited to start. I know it's not going to be perfect, no program is perfect, but I'm just gonna make the best of our program!

Summerday28 · Dec 4, 2023

Are yall applying to any scholarships? I started hunting for some but many of them require students to be enrolled in an ABSN and have grade transcripts ready prior to applying. It's frustrating!