Things you'd LOVE to be able to tell patients, and get away with it.

Just curious as to what you would say. Mine goes something like this: Nurses Relations Video Nurse Life

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Hi, my name is AngelfireRN, I'll be your nurse tonight.

I am not a waitress, nor am I your slave.

Yelling and hurling obscenities at me will not get you your pain meds any sooner than they are ordered. Nor will having your family member or entourage do the same.

Threatening lawsuits and having umpteen family members camp out in the halls or hold up the nurse's station will not get you preferential treatment.

Physically grabbing me as I go down the hall is NOT a good idea.

I do not give the orders, but I do have to follow/enforce them. This is something that you should take up with your doctor.

No, I will not call him again to ask him for more pain medicine. He has been called twice and has said no both times.

No, I will not give you his number so you can "straighten him out".

No, you are not my only patient, and I highly doubt that you are single-handedly paying my salary. On the off chance that you are, let's talk about a raise.

NO, NO, NO, I most empahatically will NOT come get you when it is time for your next pain shot while you are having a smoke break. I also will not bring it to you in the smoking room. (Have actually said that, I am allergic to cigarettes. I did it once, had an asthma attack, desatted to 83, and turned blue, according to the patient and my charge nurse, after the patient had to help me back to the floor).

No, I don't really care if your family has not eaten all day, they drove here by themselves, they are not sick, and no, I will not call for 6 guest trays. (This of course, is if the patient in question does not need all 6 family members present, and is not at death's door).

No, you may not have 3 six-packs of soda from the kitchen, there are other people that would like a snack, too.

No, they will not open up the kitchen up just for you, at 1 in the morning, because you don't like the snacks we have on the floor.

I could think of hundreds, but those will do for a start. I know it sounds mean, but this is why I got out of bedside nursing. When a hospital becomes the Hilton, I'm gone!

Have fun!

Duckhillbandit your comment is offensive to me. I, for one, am an RN that is not interested in seeing any patient's member, young or old. Nurses believe very strongly in maintaining the dignity of a patient and respecting their privacy. And if I ever had a male patient "flaunting his endowments in my face" assault charges are happening immediately!!! And yes, that's a felony.

Again WE DON'T CARE!! I think you watch too much nurse Media.

Specializes in Med nurse in med-surg., float, HH, and PDN.

Wow! I thought from the tone and huffing that this thread was from the yellow pages, and I was right.

What's with the royal 'we' ?

Did you know you can deflate a situatuion by giving little laugh and saying , "oh, put that thing away; I see those things all day long." (Whether you do or not)

I think "flaunting his endowments in your face" was an expression rather than a literal description; a little wagging ain't the same as an assaultive circumstance, at least most of the time. It's pretty passive-aggressive, which is not to say it couldn't tip toward aggression, but generally speaking, in a hospital situation you don't find the extreme range of that activity. A good, long look right into the patients eyes ( especially if done over the top of your glasses) will often curtail a patients randier inclinations.

When I did home-health I had to make daily visits to pack a post boil I&D behind the pts scrotum /in front of the rectum. Nothing dignified about that: he positioned as if in gyn-stirrups and held his equipment up and out of the way while I removed packing and repacked/dressed it. Pt. said it was such a relief to be rid of the boil and the pain it caused that he didn't mind anything as long as it was meant to get him healed.

If you ever have a patient act out in a totally inappropriate manner up-close-and-personal,, grab it and SQUEEZE and yell "FIRE!" because 'fire' gets more attention and is immediately understood as an emergency.

THEN you can file charges.But get yourself out of danger first.

And speaking for myself, just because I talk about something in a post in one manner, don't make the assumption that I'm not professional on the job. I've been told that my warmth and humor really takes the tension out of the situation; I am appreciative of the awkwardness of many of the things nurses must do to and for others who are for all intents and purposes, complete strangers to us, as we are to them. I have empathy and utter respect for the shared human existance it's full scope and range,

Specializes in Med/Surg, DSU, Ortho, Onc, Psych.

The issue of modesty from the last posts is an extremely personal thing.

'Using a little humour' is not in some people's natures. One of my gf's who was like a 35 year old virgin (married now) was very, very modest & religious, and she took offence to any leering or suggestive remarks. She would get very upset re these sorts of remarks, even if they were made in fun from people she knew (or kinda knew like work mates).

I think the time for females being OK with that sort of stuff is waaay past, and rightly so.

We may laugh, but I've nursed older people who have told me stories about themselves & their grandmas who bathed with clothes on - always. Being naked is almost unheard of in some cultures. One lady told me if u were caught with ur clothes off to bathe (and people didn't bathe much in the old days, no or very little access to clean water) you would be whippped. They whipped obedience into you, she reckoned.

Perhaps it's the men that need re-educating, not us on how to behave properly. I know many people make inappropriate joke cos they're nervous or it's how they've been raised in their family, but it's got to the point where it's now unacceptable, and if they can't learn that, they will always have complaints made against them.

And people who tolerate it are saying yes it's OK to treat me with disrespect of in a degrading way - even if it wasn't meant that way, it's just not on anymore.

There is no way I would tolerate any patient degrading me in any way. Security would be called then the police, with no hesitation or thought.

duckhillbandit your comment is offensive to me. i, for one, am an rn that is not interested in seeing any patient's member, young or old. nurses believe very strongly in maintaining the dignity of a patient and respecting their privacy. and if i ever had a male patient "flaunting his endowments in my face" assault charges are happening immediately!!! and yes, that's a felony.

again we don't care!! i think you watch too much nurse Media.

uh. :uhoh21:

if said man shoved your face into said jewels, that would be an issue.

if said man has been asked to disrobe, and the jewels are merely dangling in the same room with you - that would be your problem.

there must be a collective "we" that i didn't hear had to convene on this issue. did i miss the meeting? :confused:

a felony.....:rotfl:

i also don't give a rat's posterior about seeing some guy's junk (and since i mostly worked neuro/ltc....that's an apt term).

dignity is important....so is not having a stroke at the mention of someone being naked.....

and, the questions were about how the man feels- not the nurse....

Obviously, the individual patient determines the use of humor and to what extent. For those with perma-broom up their butt, they get the Victorian treatment....

For those who respond to humor, it HELPS. It's all individualized- NOT black and white... I LOVE humor when I've got to do something unpleasant...and that's during some lousy hospitalization stuff. When I was charging, humor helped a LOT in 'breaking the ice' and getting the "human" back into the "clinical" stuff. It acknowledges their fears and feelings- without immobilizing them- when they're the kind who respond to it :)

I'll take NSIME for a nurse, with some humor over someone who looks like the lemonade was too sour and the prunes not enough to clear the pipes. JMO :D

WHY do things always end up as absolutes - then when the "proclaimer" has a gray area, it's acceptable? :confused: (not necessarily referring to this- just a trend w/differences of opinion).

And FWIW, I've been assaulted- like 6 hours non-stop with the guy shot in my bedroom by police- so please don't equate assault with a naked guy in the same room.... just sayin'

xtxrn I'm sorry about your past assault. Sounds like a nightmare. I wasn't equating assault with a naked guy in the same room but with said naked guy "thrusting his endowment in [my] face". That describes aggression to me and is not ok.

Nostarsinmyeyes I take back the offensive collective "we". My bad. Would never in a million years have thought any nurse would find the tone and message of that post ok. Apparently allnurses found it offensive as well as it is no longer up.

Sorry - double post

xtxrn I'm sorry about your past assault. Sounds like a nightmare. I wasn't equating assault with a naked guy in the same room but with said naked guy "thrusting his endowment in [my] face". That describes aggression to me and is not ok.

Nostarsinmyeyes I take back the offensive collective "we". My bad. Would never in a million years have thought any nurse would find the tone and message of that post ok. Apparently allnurses found it offensive as well as it is no longer up.

Understood.... but it's also not a felony. Aggression and assault aren't the same :)

I wouldn't like some jerk shoving his junk in my face- patient or not- and at the same time, we do end up dealing with jerks- diffusing the situation often gets them to chill with a minimally discernible rejection and dismissal of their "prowess" (mostly by not being noticed as much as they think they 'deserve' :D).

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Understood.... but it's also not a felony. Aggression and assault aren't the same :)

I wouldn't like some jerk shoving his junk in my face- patient or not- and at the same time, we do end up dealing with jerks- diffusing the situation often gets them to chill with a minimally discernible rejection and dismissal of their "prowess" (mostly by not being noticed as much as they think they 'deserve' :D).

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Right. But if I'm at work and find myself in a situation that threatens me, I'm not concentrating on diffusing. I switch in to ME mode. I'm calling security, NM or supervisor, and the local PD. Again, your junk intentionally thrust in my face? In what parallel universe is that NOT a crime?

Right. But if I'm at work and find myself in a situation that threatens me, I'm not concentrating on diffusing. I switch in to ME mode. I'm calling security, NM or supervisor, and the local PD. Again, your junk intentionally thrust in my face? In what parallel universe is that NOT a crime?

Yes- if it was someone who was A&O and being a jackwagon, there's possibly a misdemeanor in there.... and if it feels threatening, of course you need backup :)

The scene I "heard" in the post that presented this was about how the patient felt at having to become naked. Not that it was someone who was being intentionally hostile- but reacting to the vulnerability - and not LITERALLY shoving his junk at the nurse.

Just how I read it :)

Specializes in Med nurse in med-surg., float, HH, and PDN.

Okay, then.............onto the next patient:

" Yes, you have the right to refuse, regardless of what that other nurse says. What you are refusing will not harm you or another. It is not the end of the world, and it will not affect your recovery to NOT do it. You are a grownup and the power to decide is yours. I will not harass you repeatedly. You need to tell that other nurse (or tell her charge-nurse, supervisor, or your doctor to tell her) to 'give it a rest. No means no.'

Specializes in med-surg, psych, ER, school nurse-CRNP.

"Back so soon?"

To the patient presenting to rapid care for the second time in less than a week, c/o back pain, s/p surgical procedure. No, he hadn't followed up with either his primary or his surgeon as we instructed him to.

And his response to me walking in?

"Oh, it's you. I thought we'd get to see someone else this time."

So, sure, come back in and hope for a new face that WILL give you pain pills for something that could be a surgical emergency/complication (he specifically requested them last visit). You'll get the same answer from me you did last time. If you think it's due to the surgery, call the surgeon. If not and it's your bad back that you've had for years, follow up with your primary, like I laready told you. WE DO NOT TREAT CHRONIC PAIN HERE!