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Ruby Vee has 40 years experience as a BSN.

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1 hour ago, AbbyLane said:

 

I don't want you to take offense with how I reacted to your post, I'm not disagreeing with your experience I'm disagreeing with your overall opinion, and that your situation statistically is a unique one in today's world. If that rubbed you the wrong way I truly apologize.

It would be more clear if you disagreed with my opinion, then, rather than just disagreeing with a post where I've stated my personal experience.  

I'm all for the disagree button, but I think that other members were right when they stated that you shouldn't use it unless you're stating why you disagree, and/or exactly with what you are disagreeing.

While I may be in a unique position as to having the two paystubs side by side and knowing the exact qualifications each of us has for the job we're both doing, I cannot believe mine is the only instance where the lesser qualified male is paid more per hour than the more qualified female.

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3 hours ago, Ruby Vee said:

We've all heard of the "glass ceiling."  The "glass escalator" is the flip side:

The glass escalator refers to the precipitous promotion of men over women into management positions in female-dominated fields such as nursing, education, social work, and even ballet.

 

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/gyxvpq/men-get-top-jobs-in-traditionally-female-fields-because-of-course-they-do

https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/13/pf/women-promotions-raises/index.html

https://www.womenonbusiness.com/men-women-the-glass-escalator/

I see what you're trying to get at but look at is this way. Men are and have been the minority in nursing correct? Along with managerial positions in female dominated fields. We could compare male dominated fields with female higher-up that are slightly out of proportion. things are evening out because men and women are getting jobs not normal to their gender. I'd be concerned if males heavily dominated female profession higher-up positions but they don't. and as time goes on it'll only get higher, along with the rate of women in professions that are male dominated. I see this as a good thing and not a bad thing. If this was the other way around we would be so proud because females are killing it in a female dominated field  (and some do). Male growth shouldn't be frowned upon in nursing - it's not so disproportionate that there's blatant bias. Things are evening out if you will.

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2 hours ago, Ruby Vee said:

It would be more clear if you disagreed with my opinion, then, rather than just disagreeing with a post where I've stated my personal experience.  

I'm all for the disagree button, but I think that other members were right when they stated that you shouldn't use it unless you're stating why you disagree, and/or exactly with what you are disagreeing.

While I may be in a unique position as to having the two paystubs side by side and knowing the exact qualifications each of us has for the job we're both doing, I cannot believe mine is the only instance where the lesser qualified male is paid more per hour than the more qualified female.

It's not the only instance, I never said that. It's still unique in our own society though.

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Ruby Vee has 40 years experience as a BSN.

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15 hours ago, AbbyLane said:

I see what you're trying to get at but look at is this way. Men are and have been the minority in nursing correct? Along with managerial positions in female dominated fields. We could compare male dominated fields with female higher-up that are slightly out of proportion. things are evening out because men and women are getting jobs not normal to their gender. I'd be concerned if males heavily dominated female profession higher-up positions but they don't. and as time goes on it'll only get higher, along with the rate of women in professions that are male dominated. I see this as a good thing and not a bad thing. If this was the other way around we would be so proud because females are killing it in a female dominated field  (and some do). Male growth shouldn't be frowned upon in nursing - it's not so disproportionate that there's blatant bias. Things are evening out if you will.

I think the point of the articles is that it's a definite bias.  Blatant or subtle, it is still a bias.

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On ‎1‎/‎17‎/‎2019 at 1:19 PM, Ruby Vee said:

Two of those hospitals I worked in with my ex- were union hospitals.  And the less qualified male STILL made more per hour.  I am not sure how they managed to do that, because when I talked to HR, I was shown the salary guidelines.  The union showed me the same guidelines.  I was making what I should have been making per the guidelines; the less qualified male was making MORE.

It was explained to me by the Director at my union nursing job how the union is circumvented in personnel matters.  

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32 minutes ago, Ruby Vee said:

I think the point of the articles is that it's a definite bias.  Blatant or subtle, it is still a bias.

I think the bias that you speak of is just the result of society tearing down the gender stereotypes of who works in what field. We can agree to disagree though, I see what you're saying but like I said I don't view it as a bias I view it as society taking a step forward:-)

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