The psych patient on a tele unit

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Had a few of the weird ones on the same hallway yesterday but by far the most time consuming was the 22 year old who demanded her husband spend the night. At first I thought sure, as long as it's okay with the night nurse, if it'll make you feel better it's okay. She started talking about how mean the nurses on the other floor were last visit and how she went AMA. Okay so we called the other floor, apparently at night the husband goes into other patient's rooms asking for money. So, no, he can't stay, and the director put her foot down. So out comes the psych. "I have nightmares and multiple personalities, ooh, here comes another personality right now, what are you F*ing going to do when I start hitting nurses? You better have a document to restrain me from my husband, he's my legal guardian!!"

And of course her husband, who has been sitting there picking scabs from his arms, chimes in with the threats of how he's going to "sue this hospital." Then comes the usual from the patient: " I WILL go AMA."

So my questions: How do you actually deal with these psych patients? Of course you can't give in to their demands, but how to be diplomatic? And why can't we say, "go ahead and sue, take on our corporate lawyer with your imagined disrespect," or "Please do go AMA because I'm sick of you already." And why is this AMA such a big threat with the people you really, really want to go AMA, do they think we need them?

Maybe I have several questions. But I'm perplexed by psych, they make the job tedious and the day long, the same people keep needing the nurse in there constantly and are always asking to speak to the charge.

As always, thanks in advance.

Specializes in Gyn Onc, OB, L&D, HH/Hospice/Palliative.

Let her sign out or walk out, whatever, If she truly is in his custodial care that would be in the chart, have him sign, or let them walk. No one is forced to stay, OTOH, if she is legally incompetent and has a court order requiring her to stay, she needs to be in a locked/psych unit, I really wouldn't rack my brain, there's the door............

this may be manipulation but if the patient has been determined to be incompetent then that is what it is

this does not mean that staff should be allowed to be abused verbally or physically

if she were to insist that husband stay over night hand him ama papers

i have worked with these types both patient and fly members..the ones who state 'I KNOW MY RIGHTS' but they have no concern about the rights of other patients or the staff

I have had countless psych patients in Tele and they are so draining and manipulative. We've had committed patients and those that prob shoudl be committed, we get the Supervisor, Doctors everyone involved - there is no way the nurses and aides can deal with the chaos they create.....

We've had them WALK out AMA - we just document it all.....

Psych patients are my least favorite ugh:madface:

Specializes in med/surg, psych, public health.
had a few of the weird ones on the same hallway yesterday but by far the most time consuming was the 22 year old who demanded her husband spend the night. at first i thought sure, as long as it's okay with the night nurse, if it'll make you feel better it's okay. she started talking about how mean the nurses on the other floor were last visit and how she went ama. okay so we called the other floor, apparently at night the husband goes into other patient's rooms asking for money. so, no, he can't stay, and the director put her foot down. so out comes the psych. "i have nightmares and multiple personalities, ooh, here comes another personality right now, what are you f*ing going to do when i start hitting nurses? you better have a document to restrain me from my husband, he's my legal guardian!!"

and of course her husband, who has been sitting there picking scabs from his arms, chimes in with the threats of how he's going to "sue this hospital." then comes the usual from the patient: " i will go ama."

so my questions: how do you actually deal with these psych patients? of course you can't give in to their demands, but how to be diplomatic? and why can't we say, "go ahead and sue, take on our corporate lawyer with your imagined disrespect," or "please do go ama because i'm sick of you already." and why is this ama such a big threat with the people you really, really want to go ama, do they think we need them?

maybe i have several questions. but i'm perplexed by psych, they make the job tedious and the day long, the same people keep needing the nurse in there constantly and are always asking to speak to the charge.

as always, thanks in advance.

i am not a nurse, i'm just a curious cna, and i'd like to know how does this psych patient suddenly know that her next personality is emerging?! :chuckle

on a serious note though, i'd really like to know, if ms. suehappy playthesystem, after threatening to leave ama, & then she actually does attack any nursing staff, can the nurse/s file assault charges?

the 'husband picking scabs from his arms'... sounds very much like a meth head; am i guessing correctly?

thank you in advance for any responses.

Specializes in Post Anesthesia.

Although this one seems to be at the extreme end of the spectrum, it's my opinion, after 20+ years in cardiology nursing, that heart disease is a psyc illness. To heck with all that smoking, cholesterol, exercise, family history stuff. Just a healthy enough dose of the right combo of psyc meds started by thier late teens and the arteries will stay open forever!

Who told you about the is psych history? Her? Has she had a consult? She could have a 5150 and then she couldn't go AMA and could buy herself retraints and/or a 1:1.

Even if her husband is her legal guardian it doesn't mean he has to be around all the time. All he needs to do is come in and sign papers. He is a threat to the privacy of the pts and should be kept away.

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