Terminated at end of orientation.

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A Cautionary Tale (Feedback and advice would be appreciated....):

Just wanted to say I was recently terminated after a 12 week orientation. The reason given was that I was not able to handle the level of acuity and pace of the unit. The managers did not believe I would be able to succeed, based on their experience with "hundreds" of new nurses. They suggested I apply for less acute units in the hospital or in the associated clinics, but did not offer any referrals. I was told to clean out my locker. This was after receiving no formal written performance appraisals and having passed all my orientation classes. My preceptor had told me I was not picking up things as quickly as I should at about the 10th week, but never mentioned the possibility of termination. She verbally suggested I work on "focusing to prevent distraction and organizing my workload". She wanted me to try the night shifts to see if I would do better with less distraction. She did say that 10 weeks was the new length of orientation and I was already at the end of that period. (My orientation book said it was 12 weeks -- apparently old information.) No one mentioned the possibility of termination -- not the preceptor, the manager, the supervisor, or the nurse educator.

Termination after orientation can happen. This was my first job after graduation and a very difficult transition for a new grad, an older-age one at that. It has been extremely demoralizing to be fired. I wonder if I should quit the profession and give up, but I have invested too much in time and finances, and have staked too much of my future on becoming a nurse.

It is disheartening to hear the comments (on a different topic thread) that it is very rare for a nurse to fail orientation. I do feel like a failure. Looking back I see that I could have done some things differently. I did not come home and study or study on my days off, which now I believe I should have done. My excuse is that I was too tired and stressed from the exhausting and overwhelming hours at work. Often it was 13+ hours straight, with 6 to 8 hours before a break or chance to eat. (When really busy, nurses worked 9 to 13 hours straight through, counting extra time for report and charting, with no breaks at all). And there was the constant bombardment of new information to digest. It was just full-tilt boogie for the whole shift. It would take me all of the available hours before the next shift just to recover my energy and clear my head.

My advice: If you truly want to keep your job, you must push through the exhaustion and stress and study. Ask for written evaluations early on and if you are not at the expected performance level, ask for a remediation plan and regular reviews of progress. If you sense something ominous in the wind, speak up and ask what's going on. These things I did not do, since I expected a chance to review my performance with the supervisor and manager and to remediate if necessary. (Part of me did have a growing fear that I might be terminated... This is when I should have point-blank asked!)

There were many things in the way my termination was handled that I could complain about, but I don't wish to dwell on that here. I need to learn the lessons and move on, whether it is to continue in nursing or not. It has been a little over a month since my firing and I am still trying to get over the emotional trauma.

Good luck to you! (I don't know how old this post is. I hope you've succeeded and gone on to become a great nurse.)

I am so sorry this is something you have to go through. I am very appreciative of the fact they you are willing to share you experience so that numerous nurses can learn from it.

I am a new grad starting in the NICU in two weeks and will definitely use some of your suggestions while in orientation.

Just by reading your initial post I know you will make a great nurse because of your ability to learn from past experiences, apply them, and institute teamwork! :-)

Specializes in Med Surg.

We recently had an orientee fired from my unit. While I feel terribly for her, she had many of the problems described by the OP. She just wasn't going to be up to taking a patient load any time soon and didn't appear to be studying at home. It's definitely possible to be fired during orientation. I hope other new grads read this thread and take it to heart.

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

And don't let it stop them for looking into other areas of nursing they may be well suited to. Hospital nursing is not the be all/end all. There is much more out there!

I would like to share with you guys my experience. I'm experience nurse diced to move to other place my manager was exacting that I will be part of the team. Any way after 2 weeks orientation , she decided that I supposes to take the challenge test for experience nurse, no critical nurse, but I took the test I didn't answer few questions regarding ventilator, so my grade was 77%, so she fire me because I didn't meet the standards of care. Even I didn't start the unit orientation, after 10 years of experience what can I do now.

I'm sorry this happened to you ivojal. I think being fired is one of the most stressful and awful experiences anyone can have, so I can definitely relate to your pain and confusion. It's hard to describe the jumble of feelings to someone who hasn't experienced it.

In my case, I am trying to figure out what I need to do differently to succeed as a nurse; what I need to work on to make myself valuable to an employer, and how to get that across in resumes, cover letters, phone calls, interviews, etc. All this requires a great deal of soul-searching: Where do I want to work? Where would be the best fit for my knowledge, skills, personality, values, and interests? What are the weaknesses I need to overcome, skills I need to gain? What are my unique strengths?

This can feel overwhelming, too. To keep it simple, I am trying to put one foot in front of the other and trying do the next indicated thing. Thanks for sharing your experience.

Oh, one more thing. I am trying not to get too caught up in the emotional drama. Though it's important to vent the emotions, too much of it diverts me from the tasks at hand. I gave myself a week, though, to feel as lousy as I wanted to! I still have the occasional sob-fest or rant about how I was mistreated, and/or I beat myself up over how I personally screwed up, but then I try to get over it! This has been a great place to get my head back together. There is unconditional support, like a comforting blanket; and gentle corrective feedback, which stings at first, but points out something I really need to consider.

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

You are doing great!

Hi, elprup. I hope things are going better for you now... That's too bad they didn't figure out you'd had experience before you even interviewed. No doubt about it, the Job Search is strewn with pitfalls. That's one of the worst things for me about getting fired... Having to do the job search again so soon. But the books I read say that today most of us will change jobs multiple times in our lives. In fact, I read that the average length of employment is about four years. Bottom line: we better get good at job searching and all that it entails! (Ugh!) :)

Specializes in ED, ICU, PSYCH, PP, CEN.

I was fired from my first nursing job during orientation to ER. I went to med/surg for a little over a year at a different hospital and then transferred to ER. Was there for about 5 years. Went travel nursing. Moved to another state. Started looking for ER work and got fired from an ER job after 4 weeks.

Took another travel job to get my confidence back up and went and got another ER job. Got fired from that about 4 weeks in. But the ER director told me to go ask the ICU director for a job. So I did. They hired me and I love them and they love me. Later found out that their ER hires and fires lots of people and regular employees refuse to float there because the ER nurses are mean to them.

So, my career summed up is fired 3 times. Made a DNR by a hospital x 2. Worked in over 34 ERs over the 10 year span. Most I loved and fit right in. Nursing is a strange, but wonderful world. There is not just one, but several places that are dying to have you. Neither of you know it yet though.

What helped me is that I had worked so many places, for so long that I did have wonderful references. I can also always fall back on travel nurse jobs if I want to.

Trust me, getting fired was devastating for me, but I did sit back and reflect on what I could have changed to keep from being fired and I actually identified a few things.

The nice thing about getting fired as a new grad on orientation is you just tell the next place that the last place wasn't a good FIT. That's what I did. I have some friends that went through 4 and 5 jobs the first 2 years because nothing worked for them.

I hope that as the years go by you will find nursing turned out to be wonderful for you, like it has been for me. One last thing. A couple of my favorite nurses that are now "way up" in nursing were initially told by people that they were losers and would never be nurses. So keep working at it.

Wow -- music to my ears! You have no idea how much that helps me and how much I respect your experience!!! Thank you X many!

PS -- What do you say if they want more details about "not a good fit?" That happened to me in my last interview and I think I said too much!

Specializes in ED, ICU, PSYCH, PP, CEN.

Not sure about your instance. But in my case it was easy. I had been recruited to be a new grad in the ER. It did not work out. So when I interviewed for med/surg I was able to say that I realized that ER was not a good place for a new grad to start, and that many people said new nurses should start in med/surg so that was why I was applying for med surg job.

They bought it.

You can always use the "too far from my house", hours didn't work out, unit going through many changes and looking for more stable work environment. There are always lots of nice, vague things one can say.

Always keep it simple though.

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