Specialties Emergency
Published Dec 24, 2004
Hi there
In my unit nurses are now being expected to suture. Does anyone have any references, information or protocols about nurses and the role of suturing? Thanks Merry Christmas to all. : :Santa5:
jwk
1,102 Posts
Please, let's not pretend that suturing is rocket science either.
There are countless CST's and surgical assistants (some licensed, some not depending on the state) that function as first assistants in surgery. We use dozens of independently contracted CSA's (Certified Surgical Assistants) in our facilities, and they do a little bit of everything, including suturing and stapling. They are credentialed through the hospital, and the surgeon isn't supposed to leave the room until the incision is closed, although they often do. They usually function under a physician's delegatory authority (if that right is granted by the state) just as an unlicensed medical assistant does who gives injections in the physician's office.
vortex72
61 Posts
RNFAs go thru a specific training program, have to have a CNOR, 2000 hours in a preceptorship program, etc. Medical students are working under the licnese of the physician. A nurse works under her own license, even when it comes to harvesting veins, etc.
Thanks for info, I didnt know that. I've always wanted to work in surgery as a FA, but I make such good money doing acute dialysis that I'm not sure I'd want to go through the change. Is it a state or national requirement to get the CNOR and 2000 hours? I just ask because I havent heard of those type requirements in TN.
Those are certification requirements, not licensure.
needsmore$
237 Posts
Please check with your state nursing practice act - I don't believe that nurses in the USA can suture unless they are advanced practice trained-like NPs.
Anne
PA-C in Texas
88 Posts
In Ontario, suturing is a responsibility of the physican, or nurse practitioner, or RNFA. I have never met a physicians assistant. What schooling do they have? Is that only in the US? Curious.Sarah
Sarah
It's a Masters program. Mine was a little less than three years long (including summers).
Please check with your state nursing practice act - I don't believe that nurses in the USA can suture unless they are advanced practice trained-like NPs. Anne
Perhaps on a state by state basis. As a blanket statement, that is incorrect. I know plenty of RN's who suture.
In PA they cannot
https://allnurses.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-70429
This thread has info regarding RNs and suturing
SusanJean
463 Posts
A physician's assistant program is 2 years post B.S. degree.
SJ
Ex130Load
101 Posts
Several posters have stated that phyician assistant programs are only masters degree programs--untrue. Kettering College of Medical Arts among others offer PA degrees at the baccalaureate(SP) level.
True- my husband is a PA and graduated w/ a BS from Hahnemann University years ago ( now part of Drexel University)
Deb123j
305 Posts
FYI ~ Kettering's PA program will become a masters degree program beginning Fall 2005. Many pre-pa students there are very unhappy about the change.