Published May 16, 2009
nurse_maya28
21 Posts
I'm just doing some research on cytotec placement/ inductions. Our Facility is pushing for nurses to place cytotec. We are a small rural hospital (300-400 births a year). We just got a new OB/Gyn who came from a larger hospital that has nurses do almost everything. I am guessing that to get him to sign on with us, they told him we would do all the things the bigger city nurses are doing. Most of us are rather ucomfortable with the idea due to the fact that we do not have any doctors in house during cytotec inductions if the nurses are placing them. We also do not have a surgery crew in house. I was just wondering what you ladies do at your facilities - thanks
How many births do you do per year or per month?
How many OB/gyns do you have on staff?
How many family practice doctors delivery babies?
How many nurses do you have on staff for L&D for each shift?
Do nurses place cytotec or do the doctors do it?
Are there any nurses that refuse to place cytotec?
Are their doctors in house during the cytotec induction?
Is the surgery crew in house during cytotec inductions?
If you place cytotec,what was required to train you to place cytotec?
Is Cytotec used on viable pregnancies or only on IUFD?
Do you or would feel comfortable placing cytotec?
feisty
97 Posts
How many births do you do per year or per month? I really do not know the answer to this one. We are a small LDRP.
How many OB/gyns do you have on staff? 4
How many family practice doctors delivery babies? One. He doesn't do many deliveries, so I am not certain if he ever does cytotec inductions.
How many nurses do you have on staff for L&D for each shift? 2-4
Do nurses place cytotec or do the doctors do it? We have standing cytotec orders. The patient must have an IV in place, the Dr. places the first 50mcg and 4 hours later the nurse places 25mcg if needed. These standing orders state what meds to give if the pt. is hyperstimulated.
Are there any nurses that refuse to place cytotec? No, we do it routinely, but we never place the first cytotec.
Are their doctors in house during the cytotec induction? They place then leave.
Is the surgery crew in house during cytotec inductions? No
If you place cytotec,what was required to train you to place cytotec? I learned to place cytotec as I followed a preceptor when I first trained for this job.
Is Cytotec used on viable pregnancies or only on IUFD? Both
Do you or would feel comfortable placing cytotec? Yes.
LibraSunCNM, BSN, MSN, CNM
1,656 Posts
I thought Cytotec was found to be an incredibly dangerous drug, that caused ruptured uteruses, hemorrhage, and maternal and fetal deaths. It's still being used? Am I wrong about the findings?
Conejita, BSN
72 Posts
How many births do you do per year or per month? We do between 40-60 usually- small rural LDRP.
How many OB/gyns do you have on staff? On staff at all times? None. We mostly have 1 OB/GYN whose services are rendered at our hospital (there is another who has priveledges but rarely uses them), and one family practice MD with special training to do c/sections. Our "OB on call" is pretty much split between these two MDs.
How many family practice doctors delivery babies? Most of our babies are delivered by family practice MDs and midwives.
How many nurses do you have on staff for L&D for each shift? our unit is L&D/Postpartum all in one so we staff between 2-4 nurses each shift.
Do nurses place cytotec or do the doctors do it? We do PO cytotec for the most part. Very rarely do we do lady partsl placement of cytotec. We use cervadil for lady partsl placement. Nurses do it if the MD/CNM asks us to.
Are there any nurses that refuse to place cytotec? Not that I have heard of. We do low doses of cytotec- 25mg PO to start, and then 50mg PO q4 for a total of 4 doses (i think).
Are their doctors in house during the cytotec induction? Nope, not necessarily.
Is the surgery crew in house during cytotec inductions? Nope, not necessarily.
If you place cytotec,what was required to train you to place cytotec? n/a since we don't "place" cytotec. But for cervadil, on-the-job learning during orientation.
Is Cytotec used on viable pregnancies or only on IUFD? both
Do you or would feel comfortable placing cytotec? kind of in the middle. Wish we didn't use it for induction at all but since we use low doses and monitor very carefully, I feel pretty comfortable....
QTBabyNurse, BSN, RN
136 Posts
how many births do you do per year or per month? 700/year
how many ob/gyns do you have on staff? 3
how many family practice doctors delivery babies? none
how many nurses do you have on staff for l&d for each shift? 2
do nurses place cytotec or do the doctors do it? most of the time the rn's do it, unless the doctor just happens to be on the floor at the time doing an exam, then he will do it.
are there any nurses that refuse to place cytotec? no
are their doctors in house during the cytotec induction? no
is the surgery crew in house during cytotec inductions? not unless it happens during their working hours.
if you place cytotec,what was required to train you to place cytotec? just following the policy and procedures set forth. no specific training other than what us nurses collectively read and researched. know the standards of care for using this medication for this purpose. get consents signed for the use of the medication.
is cytotec used on viable pregnancies or only on iufd? both
do you or would feel comfortable placing cytotec? yes....the only caveat i would offer here is to watch the patient very closely as they sometimes tend to progress quickly. do all the necessary research to do it safely and know what situations you need to be prepared for.
are there any nurses that refuse to place cytotec? not that i have heard of. we do low doses of cytotec- 25mg po to start, and then 50mg po q4 for a total of 4 doses (i think).
i'm sure you meant to say 25 mcg!
rn4babies63
174 Posts
how many births do you do per year or per month? 80-90
how many ob/gyns do you have on staff? 5
how many nurses do you have on staff for l&d for each shift? 2-3
do nurses place cytotec or do the doctors do it? rn's unless doc happens to be there at the time
is the surgery crew in house during cytotec inductions? no
if you place cytotec,what was required to train you to place cytotec? hospital policy, lady partsl exams, knowlege of medication and side effects
do you or would feel comfortable placing cytotec? yes
LizzyL&DRN
164 Posts
How many births do you do per year or per month? 250-300 per MONTH
How many OB/gyns do you have on staff? 10 OBs and 1 Perinatologist
How many family practice doctors delivery babies? 0
How many nurses do you have on staff for L&D for each shift? 6+
Do nurses place cytotec or do the doctors do it? Nurses always do it.
Are there any nurses that refuse to place cytotec? The pregnant nurses do not place it, other than that, NO, everyone places it.
Are their doctors in house during the cytotec induction? No.
Is the surgery crew in house during cytotec inductions? Yes.
If you place cytotec,what was required to train you to place cytotec? Education on using it, demonstrate competency in placing it.
Do you or would feel comfortable placing cytotec? Yes, very comfortable.
I have seen very few negative side effects of using Cytotec. Unfortunately, our docs do A LOT of inductions, there are frequently patients that receive cytotec 25 mcg Q4 for 24 hours or more. They often end up in C/S due to failed inductions which is a shame. But negative side effects have been rare on our unit from cytotec. Occasionally there is a baby that won't tolerate labor and needs to be delivered via C/S, but that can hardly be blamed on the Cytotec.
nursejohio, ASN, RN
284 Posts
About 5000/year
We've always got a 4 resident team, plus their attending in house. Some nights staff is running the whole board, other times we'll have a decent group of private patients so there will be a few extra attendings in house
We've got a family practice residency program, so they deliver patients. If she goes high risk, they'll consult the OB/Gyn residents, and pass her off to them if she needs a c/s
Depending on census, 12-18. Usually have 3 in triage, 1 float, a couple in high risk, and several more for labor. Oh, plus a charge nurse
If we're inducing a pre-viable baby (for lethal anomalies, sick mom-HELLP or whatever) the docs have to place it. For IUFDs or regular inductions, we can put it in
No, but there are several of us who really don't like it
Yep, we've always got the residents. They'll step in for crashes or precip deliveries on private patients
We've got one assigned CRNA for L&D, plus MD backup. We've always got a scrub tech, and usually a nurse to be 2nd scrub if needed.
Just to know the p&p, checked off by preceptor.
Both, a lot more for IUFDs though
I'll do it, but I don't like it, and I'm on those moms like white on rice. I don't trust anything I can't take out or turn off. :stone
iteachob, MSN, RN
481 Posts
It's used all the time as you'll see from the above postings. I had it myself 7 years ago. I'm not implying that there are not risks (such as the ones you mentioned).
yes you are right- mcg.
L&Dnurse13
23 Posts
How many births do you do per year or per month? 400-500
How many OB/gyns do you have on staff? 23
How many family practice doctors delivery babies? none
How many nurses do you have on staff for L&D for each shift? 9-12
Do nurses place cytotec or do the doctors do it? RN's place all doses unless the md happens to be in house
Are there any nurses that refuse to place cytotec? No
Are their doctors in house during the cytotec induction? Yes, we have an attending in house 24 hours
Is the surgery crew in house during cytotec inductions? Yes, CRNA and md in house at all times
If you place cytotec,what was required to train you to place cytotec? Just like a cervical check. The preceptor checks placement behind the RN placing it. Have to have 3 check offs to place independantly
Do you or would feel comfortable placing cytotec? I am comfortable placing it