Surgical NP

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I've received quite a few PMs recently regarding how I became a surgical NP. Which specialty is the best route and in general what my typical day looks like so I thought I'd post something.

I started as an Med/surg nurse and then a travel nurse in cardiac step-downs but OR nursing always intrigued me. So I became an OR nurse and was there for about 10 years. My hospital had an excellent reimbursement program and a friend of mine had started NP school and I decided I didn't want to be a lifer LOL so I decided to start chipping away at an NP program too.

I always envisioned myself doing something procedural based with it. I didn't really see myself as a primary care NP so that was always my goal-although none of my training in NP school was in inpatient surgery. I decided to go with an FNP program figuring that that would be the broadest education. At that time the Acute NP programs were just becoming more popular-still I feel like FNP works well.

It took me quite a bit of work to get my first surgical NP job. I hounded my first boss with emails when I saw position posted and when I finally got an interview I really played up my OR nursing experience.

My training was all hands-on. They were generous enough to pay for my RNFA program-RN first assist program which is required in my state for all NPs to practice in the operating room. It Required about 200 hours of precepting from a surgeon and it took me roughly 5 months together these hours. By no means did I feel skilled at the end of those hours but I felt competent enough for small cases/closures.

I've been at it for about two years now and have since changed hospitals. I do not take call, work weekends or holidays. I typically round by myself and chat with the doctors either on the phone or via text. I assist in the OR almost every day and I love it. I feel like I'm getting a lot better. I occasionally see patients in the ER, consult and consent for procedures. I dictate on consults after speaking with the surgeon and discharge plans. I oversee patients in the day surgery unit and write prescriptions and orders for them as well.

I'm thrilled with my move. I feel like I've been able to spend a lot more quality time with my family and I even still moonlight at my old hospital for 'play money'!

I definitely recommend the specialty although it is difficult to get your first job and your foot in the door as we all know we are not typically trained this way so it helps to know people or to have the luxury of waiting for the perfect job.

Specializes in Nephrology.

Actually I was meaning to ask you this Dodongo not Alicia. "Do you have ANCC or AANP for your certification?"

Because I know with ANCC it is kinda hectic to renew your the certification if you are in another specialty other than your license.

29 minutes ago, jayjaybsnrn said:

Actually I was meaning to ask you this Dodongo not Alicia. "Do you have ANCC or AANP for your certification?"

Because I know with ANCC it is kinda hectic to renew your the certification if you are in another specialty other than your license.

I am ACNP so the AANP does not apply. The two certifying bodies are ANCC and AACN. I have ANCC.

Specializes in Nephrology.
28 minutes ago, Dodongo said:

I am ACNP so the AANP does not apply. The two certifying bodies are ANCC and AACN. I have ANCC.

I have ANCC as well. What category did you use to renew your ANCC cert? Were you able to use category 7 even you are in surgery?

HI there!

I am interested in pursuing a career as a first assistant, I have a bachelors degree completely unrelated to health care (animal science). What route would you recommend for becoming a first assistant ? Nursing school to RNFA , PA-c. or surgical nurse practitioners ?

Which route would make me more employable?

8 hours ago, jayjaybsnrn said:

I have ANCC as well. What category did you use to renew your ANCC cert? Were you able to use category 7 even you are in surgery?

Yep, no problem. I used practice hours and precepting students. I have a good friend who is also a surgical ACNP and he has had no problems either.

Specializes in Nephrology.
7 hours ago, Sunflower1191 said:

HI there!

I am interested in pursuing a career as a first assistant, I have a bachelors degree completely unrelated to health care (animal science). What route would you recommend for becoming a first assistant ? Nursing school to RNFA , PA-c. or surgical nurse practitioners ?

Which route would make me more employable?

There is also a route to be a surgical assistant if you are mainly interested in doing surgeries that you could look up.

Specializes in Surgery.
9 hours ago, Sunflower1191 said:

HI there!

I am interested in pursuing a career as a first assistant, I have a bachelors degree completely unrelated to health care (animal science). What route would you recommend for becoming a first assistant ? Nursing school to RNFA , PA-c. or surgical nurse practitioners ?

Which route would make me more employable?

Thats great theres been so much interest in this topic... I posted it a so long ago!

Sunflower to answer your question, I think if I were in your shoes with an unrelated bachelors probably your most efficient route to become a first assist would be to become a PA. If you went the RN route, even in an accelerated program, you would be looking at 16 months full time, then becoming a solid OR RN, then taking a RNFA program to become an RNFA (and assuming you'd find a hospital where these are even utilized). Worse, I think the longest route would be to become a NP RNFA--which adds 2 years onto the last scenario.

You could also look into becoming a scrub tech. They set up back tables and instruments in the OR . They are in the OR all day but pass instruments to the surgeon versus really 'first assisting'. Their pay is also significantly lower and you already have your bachelors which is not required for this...

Hope that helped, good luck!

Specializes in Surgery.
On 11/27/2019 at 12:20 AM, jayjaybsnrn said:

Hi Alicia777,

Do you have ANCC or AANP for your certification?

I have AANP

Specializes in Nephrology.
3 minutes ago, Alicia777 said:

I have AANP

What kind of RNFA did you do? Did you take thr CRNFA test? If so, is it necessary?

Specializes in Surgery.
7 minutes ago, jayjaybsnrn said:

What kind of RNFA did you do? Did you take thr CRNFA test? If so, is it necessary?

My program was through a local college (Umass Lowell) which is now sadly defunct. I was the last class. No, I don't remember a test, just my completed case hours and assignments like papers etc.

You don't need to take the certifying exam for RNFA. That's just a money making scheme. Keep in mind though, that in most states, RNFAs cannot bill for the work they do. Only NPs and PAs can bill CMS for first assisting.

Specializes in Nephrology.
1 hour ago, Dodongo said:

You don't need to take the certifying exam for RNFA. That's just a money making scheme. Keep in mind though, that in most states, RNFAs cannot bill for the work they do. Only NPs and PAs can bill CMS for first assisting.

Thank you for this! I was looking into that CRNFA thing and it is expensive and not much info. May I know what program did you go to for your RNFA?

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