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I am an RN with 20 years of experience split between dialysis and diabetes ed. Last year I made the decision to leave my educator position due to the addition of night classes I was required to teach and four school age kids at home. I fell into subbing when the nurse at my kids' school asked me to consider- they really needed subs. The pay is terrible, but I thought it would be nice to have a little extra income and I thought it would be an interesting job- it is and I love it- that's not the problem!

I was hired without an interview or ever seeing anyone except for the secretary in the HR dept. I had to email or call for every piece of information: what the pay was, dress code, etc. I asked about orientation and was told if I wanted one I was to call each nurse and set up a time to shadow, so I did have a couple of hours at each building. While all documenting in the district is done on SNAP, subs are not allowed access and we have to document on paper logs- in one of the K-4 buildings it was just a legal pad. Makes it interesting when you have a kindergarten kid who has a difficult name they don't know how to spell...

Fast forward a couple of months and I am now the long term sub in a K-4 building through the spring following the unexpected death of the very loved school nurse- who was also a personal friend of mine. It's a little surreal sitting at her desk in her office. I have been there about 5 weeks, and have computer access now, so that has helped. I am getting to know the faculty and kids, and starting to get my systems in place and things organized. Everyone has been really welcoming and supportive. I have had several teachers ask if I plan on applying for the position and state they hope I will. And I had definitely planned to, but I just found out that they are only considering CSNs. I am a diploma RN, and have a lot to learn about school nursing, but I am willing to complete my degree and get certification. At the start of this year we had 3 CSNs in the district out of 4 nurses, and all the CSNs were hired as RNs and given time to finish their degrees and certification.

I am beyond perturbed that I am considered competent enough to run the health office for months with very minimal orientation, no training on policies/procedures, at a sub's wage, but I can't be hired full time. Grr.

I am still going to apply- I think- you never know what could happen. Although a part of me is saying to just run the other way!

Anyway- thanks for letting me vent. I have been reading through various threads and you have all been very helpful! I guess what will be will be and in the meantime I'll enjoy my time there.

Specializes in Dialysis, Diabetes Education.

Yes, I would definitely like to get my degree done- I think I have to at this point. It's just a matter of finances- I can pay for school if I have a job, if not I am going to have to look into financial aid or just put it off until I find a job that hopefully has tuition reimbursement. If I had known 24 yrs ago what I know now, I would have just gone for my master's. Hindsight is always 20/20!

Specializes in IMC, school nursing.
Yes, I would definitely like to get my degree done- I think I have to at this point. It's just a matter of finances- I can pay for school if I have a job, if not I am going to have to look into financial aid or just put it off until I find a job that hopefully has tuition reimbursement. If I had known 24 yrs ago what I know now, I would have just gone for my master's. Hindsight is always 20/20!

I know, the mantra then was we would be grandfathered in, experience is far better than letters, etc.

Specializes in Dialysis, Diabetes Education.

Yesterday was my last day as the long term sub. :( The new CSN was there to shadow me- she's very nice- no experience in school nursing yet, but she seemed on top of things and I think she'll do great. The teachers put a luncheon together for us as a goodbye and thank you for me and a welcome for the new nurse. It was very thoughtful and unexpected and so appreciated! A few classes stopped by with cards they made- it was hard to leave, but in actuality I'll be back in about 10 days to sub during kinder registration. I've applied for the 2nd position that is opening up at the other elem school next year. They are doing a second interview for a CSN that interviewed previously, but the nurse who is retiring is pushing for the school board to hire me, and I did end up asking the principal if I could use him as a reference and he was happy to oblige. So another few weeks of waiting to see if I get an interview or not. Fingers crossed!

Specializes in School nursing.
Yesterday was my last day as the long term sub. :( The new CSN was there to shadow me- she's very nice- no experience in school nursing yet, but she seemed on top of things and I think she'll do great. The teachers put a luncheon together for us as a goodbye and thank you for me and a welcome for the new nurse. It was very thoughtful and unexpected and so appreciated! A few classes stopped by with cards they made- it was hard to leave, but in actuality I'll be back in about 10 days to sub during kinder registration. I've applied for the 2nd position that is opening up at the other elem school next year. They are doing a second interview for a CSN that interviewed previously, but the nurse who is retiring is pushing for the school board to hire me, and I did end up asking the principal if I could use him as a reference and he was happy to oblige. So another few weeks of waiting to see if I get an interview or not. Fingers crossed!

Fingers crossed! I'm so sorry you lost out to a CSN with no school nurse experience. You are such an asset with experience at the school and I'm glad you have a couple of people supporting that can remind the school board of that fact.

Specializes in IMC, school nursing.

Second the working on the BSN, and certification. Some areas are very tight when it comes to getting a SN position. Pretty hard in my area.

I was a sub for 17 years in a school district. The nurses all told me that I did a great job. I did long term subbing in 2 schools. When it came time for one of the nurses to be replaced the superintendent asked the nurses ( all CSN) if they thought I could do the job. Most of them said they wanted a CSN to be hired. Needless to say I was VERY disappointed. I left the district. I am now a school nurse in a Catholic school.

Get your degree and certification. You won't regret it.

Specializes in Dialysis, Diabetes Education.

I was finally called last Tuesday to interview for the position opening up next school year. I was so excited! THEN- Wednesday, not even 24 hours later, HR calls and says "sorry, we have to cancel, the Board decided we are only going to interview CSNs". Unbelievable. Of course, HR followed with "if the CSNs don't work out, we'll call you". I kind of want to tell them to just forget it. If this had been rushed, I could maybe understand, but they concluded taking applications March 22. They have had almost a month to decide who they were interviewing. Anyway, looks like my time is winding down. Not sure if I'll continue subbing next year- this whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. Love school nursing, but the rest?...

Specializes in NCSN.
I was finally called last Tuesday to interview for the position opening up next school year. I was so excited! THEN- Wednesday, not even 24 hours later, HR calls and says "sorry, we have to cancel, the Board decided we are only going to interview CSNs". Unbelievable. Of course, HR followed with "if the CSNs don't work out, we'll call you". I kind of want to tell them to just forget it. If this had been rushed, I could maybe understand, but they concluded taking applications March 22. They have had almost a month to decide who they were interviewing. Anyway, looks like my time is winding down. Not sure if I'll continue subbing next year- this whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. Love school nursing, but the rest?...

I'm so sorry you are going through this. They are big about pushing the Certification on us in my district too, but you HAVE THE EXPERIENCE and wouldn't need to be trained from scratch. That alone should put you above any external candidate.

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