Updated: Nov 30, 2023 Published Nov 26, 2023
Peterpan1234
4 Posts
My daughter is a new nurse who was already applying to a particular hospital. A friend of ours asked her to put her name down so she could get a referral bonuses of $5000. My daughter put her down after she got an offer letter and asked 'said friend' if she would split it with her or give her some of the referral bonus. 'Said friend' told her no, saying she had a time share she wanted to pay off. My daughter is a broke college student who managed to become an RN with autism by working very, very hard. I personally think 'said friends' actions are incredibly sad. I would have been okay had she even offered her a little bit. 'Said friend' did no work to get her the job. Am I wrong?
JKL33
6,952 Posts
I'd say that since a referral bonus is a reward for bringing the employer a prospect [that they wouldn't have had otherwise] then it would have been reasonable to just tell the friend no in the first place and avoid this whole thing. Sounds like they both lied and you're upset that your daughter isn't going to profit from doing so?
klone, MSN, RN
14,856 Posts
They're both wrong. Also, if you're going to defraud the hospital (not that I'm crying any tears for the Goliath, but let's call it what it is), they should have agreed upon terms at the beginning, when your daughter first agreed to retroactively put friend's name on the app.
Hoosier_RN, MSN
3,965 Posts
Those referral bonuses are usually taxed as well, why should 1 party get a bonus scot free and the other party have that attached to their taxes
I disagree and frankly think it's quite greedy to think because you say, "hey go apply over there, I work there put my name down". That you somehow earned $5k. If the employee doesn't work hard and stay then you get nothing. If it's a stranger, then fine...but a close friend...no, that's just greedy. After taxes you could still give your friend 500-1000 and profit.
Raerae said: That you somehow earned $5k. If the employee doesn't work hard and stay then you get nothing.
That you somehow earned $5k. If the employee doesn't work hard and stay then you get nothing.
Those are the terms of the one offering the bonus! One earns the $5k by referring a prospective employee who ends up hiring on and doing a good job--because the employer wishes to offer that money under those terms, period. That's how it is earned. The employer is free to offer those kind of incentives to their current employees if they want to, just like in some places it isn't uncommon to see rather lucrative sign-on bonuses for new employees. It's just the employer's prerogative.
Your daughter has worked hard to become an RN. If she doesn't want to keep the company of people whom she believes don't treat her fairly that is a choice she can make. One thing's for sure--in this profession, a lot of other professions and life in general it'll be a long, hard road if she doesn't steer clear of drama. She should just move on and focus on learning her new role.
feelix, RN
393 Posts
Your daughter did not make the referral. The employee who referred her did, so your daughter has no right to it.
If she likes the idea of making referral money, just refer someone herself and earn some money in the future.
Oh my! Oh my! Your daughter and her friend schemed to defraud the hospital of referral money but her friend decided to keep your daughter's share. Karma!
This would cause a drug war like situation on the street.
Both are in the wrong profession. Karma will keep catching up (thoughts after rereading).
JKL33 said: Those are the terms of the one offering the bonus! One earns the $5k by referring a prospective employee who ends up hiring on and doing a good job--because the employer wishes to offer that money under those terms, period. That's how it is earned. The employer is free to offer those kind of incentives to their current employees if they want to, just like in some places it isn't uncommon to see rather lucrative sign-on bonuses for new employees. It's just the employer's prerogative. Your daughter has worked hard to become an RN. If she doesn't want to keep the company of people whom she believes don't treat her fairly that is a choice she can make. One thing's for sure--in this profession, a lot of other professions and life in general it'll be a long, hard road if she doesn't steer clear of drama. She should just move on and focus on learning her new role.
Thank you