"MANILA, Philippines -- The planned mission to appeal the denial of occupational visas to Filipino nurses by a United States commission is a bad idea and a waste of time, an administration lawmaker warned Thursday.
Iloilo Representative Janette Garin said the trip led by Professional Regulation Commission chair Leonor Rosero would hardly make a dent, considering that the Commission on Graduates of Foreign Nursing Schools (CGFNS) has its own standards to follow.
"I don't think it will pay attention to them," said the lawmaker, who pushed last year for the inclusion of a P40-million allocation in the supplemental budget to cover the retake of the leakage-marred nursing exams last June. "The PRC should just admit that it made a mistake and allow a retake."
Did a few research about the respectable Congresswoman and was able to dig an article posted May 05, 2006.
"Proposed Legislations Seek Mandatory Service Period for Nurses"
House Bill 2926, filed by Iloilo 1st district representative Janette L. Garin, requires registered nurses to serve in local hospitals for a minimum of three (3) years as requirement prior to seeking employment abroad. It also provides for a penalty of imprisonment of at least six (6) years and a fine of not less than Fifty thousand pesos (Php 50,000) for violators. In her explanatory note, Dr. Garin expressed alarm over the increasing number of nurses leaving the country which has tripled in number over the number of new nurses being registered by the Professional Regulation Commission annually.
While the intent of the proposed legislation is laudable, the solution of penalizing nurses for merely attempting to improve their living condition and that of their families is, at the very least, unfair and unconstitutional.
She (Garin) doesn't know what she's talking about. Post grad hospital experience is really important just like what Suzanne is saying but 3 yrs is way too much. And aside fr that training should start from the nursing school. Puting up a school of nursing here in the Philippines is quite becoming a good business and a sure income-generating business but what so upsetting is that the quality of nursing graduates are being compromise. I'm working here in the Philippines as a charge nurse in on of the most well-known hospitals here and i really notice how "slow" are those newly grad nurses are. So, instead of that "mandatory 3years local servise" that she's up to why not just make a law (a strict one) to upgrade the standard of nursing here. By the way, does anybody knows what are the requirements in putting up a Nursing School? just askin.... or is there?
Agree with you 100%. There is a significant difference between the nurses that came out from there years ago and the ones coming out now. Major difference.
And unfortunately, no one seems to be watching over there what is going on. There are now I.T. schools that have opened nursing programs.
And what about the four PN schools that have opened there? The Philippine government does not even recognize them for licensure there, but they permit the schools to teach there. The schools may be accredited for the students to sit for the NCLEX-PN exam, but what they fail to tell anyone is that US Imiigration requires the four year BSN from there to get a green card. The LPN license does not give them a visa to work with. And you cannot get petitioned with that.
Sorry to say, but with what is going on there, and the training that many of the new grads are coming over with, they are not helping in keeping up the excellent reputation that the Filipino nurses created here. They are actually taking it down. To a point that there are many hospitals in CA that will not even consider employing a new grad from there. And also due to the fact that so many have walked out on contracts, they are also looking twice at them. And with some of the behavior that we are seeing here and on a few other forums, they are not owed a thing, they think that they are. But until they prove themselves, the are at the bottom working their way up. They are not at the top and should not compare themselves with a nurse that graduated from there twenty years ago, and had excellent skills when they started. Minimal training was required for them when they got here, definitely cannot say that now.
Sorry about the tirade, but a few set me off this morning.
Specializes in Med-Surg,OPD ER,School/Clinic,Teaching.
I completely agree with you john83.
State funded universities like PLM and UP are covered by that law. I read about that law when i was visiting the PLM website. That congresswoman should know the law more than we do. Is she not ashamed of what is coming out from her mouth. Still, she considers herself a LAWmaker huh. Anyway, you are right john83. She should ask the executives first to implement that law. How can she even think of extending the mandatory service when the current service required for government nursing students are not being implemented well.
It would be ok for me to do a patriotic service as long as it is very reasonable and feasible. I don't care extending my hardships for another three years as long as I am sure that it could help our country and our fellow Filipinos.
I wish I have an immunity for speaking what i want too just like her so that I can tell her publicly how she made a non-sence, irrational, unscientific statement. That is all I can say for now. I may not be able to hold myself. Thank john83 for reminding me about that law.
Hi omniverseking!:)
Thanks for supporting my post. Hehe, maybe she just forgot, so let us ask her advisers or her personally to check it out.
You are very patriotic and laud you for that.:yelclap:
There are many ways to help our country and it shouldn't be limited to this. It seems that they are doing the "shotgun strategy" in an attempt to provide immediate solutions. But then again, like diseases, there is no one cure pill for all. Each solution to a problem must be carefully planned and thought of.
I understand how you feel...I think the best way is to make it known to her personally and I believe, there are "election talks" going on in some places and perhaps this topic should be suggested. There are many people who do not carefully choose their candidates/representatives, hence, these things occur.
You're welcome omniverseking!:cheers:
Perhaps you can also talk it out with your nurse/nursing friends, and then come to her office as a group. Or you can also ask support from the PNA. The most important thing to do is to pray. Always include God in your affairs/endeavors.
I am sorry to post some of my off topic messages. I notice that you're from Bacolod City. Which hospital are you working now? Actually I am not yet a RN nor a BSN student. I am just considering studying BSN this summer as a second course. I am a Bacolodnon too. I got my AB Pol Sci there four years ago.In your suggestion about joining nursing activism, I guess I will just have to pass from it hehe. I am sorry to get you disappointed. I am one of those sick and tired people here in the Philippines haha. I have major reasons for taking a BSN. Those are the chance of working abroad and help my family financially, to be with my family in the US, to practice a profession not directly involved in politics, and also to get away with the current political and economic disaster here in the Philippines.I also think that the bill will not be passed as a law (please not, haha). So many solons are against of that bill also. I guess when the time comes when it is necessary for us to lobby against it, then you can count me in. For now, I will just have to observe the issue and prepare for my studies. Thank you for giving me an insight. Its nice to hear an advice from a fellow Bacolodnon.
Specializes in Med-Surg,OPD ER,School/Clinic,Teaching.
I am sorry to post some of my off topic messages. I notice that you're from Bacolod City. Which hospital are you working now? Actually I am not yet a RN nor a BSN student. I am just considering studying BSN this summer as a second course. I am a Bacolodnon too. I got my AB Pol Sci there four years ago.In your suggestion about joining nursing activism, I guess I will just have to pass from it hehe. I am sorry to get you disappointed. I am one of those sick and tired people here in the Philippines haha. I have major reasons for taking a BSN. Those are the chance of working abroad and help my family financially, to be with my family in the US, to practice a profession not directly involved in politics, and also to get away with the current political and economic disaster here in the Philippines.I also think that the bill will not be passed as a law (please not, haha). So many solons are against of that bill also. I guess when the time comes when it is necessary for us to lobby against it, then you can count me in. For now, I will just have to observe the issue and prepare for my studies. Thank you for giving me an insight. Its nice to hear an advice from a fellow Bacolodnon.
Just send me a PM(private message) after this one.:welcome:
I'm still in the process of returning to nursing work.:monkeydance: Hehe, good to hear from a fellow Bacolodnon indeed!:icon_hug:
I understand, I believe that the one of the reasons why many Filipinos want to emigrate.:mortarboard:
Yes, hopefully not. The best way would be to disseminate this info and the repercussions of that bill as much as we can.:smilecoffeecup:
God bless! Hope to see you someday as a colleague in the nursing profession!
suzanne4, RN
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Agree with you 100%. There is a significant difference between the nurses that came out from there years ago and the ones coming out now. Major difference.
And unfortunately, no one seems to be watching over there what is going on. There are now I.T. schools that have opened nursing programs.
And what about the four PN schools that have opened there? The Philippine government does not even recognize them for licensure there, but they permit the schools to teach there. The schools may be accredited for the students to sit for the NCLEX-PN exam, but what they fail to tell anyone is that US Imiigration requires the four year BSN from there to get a green card. The LPN license does not give them a visa to work with. And you cannot get petitioned with that.
Sorry to say, but with what is going on there, and the training that many of the new grads are coming over with, they are not helping in keeping up the excellent reputation that the Filipino nurses created here. They are actually taking it down. To a point that there are many hospitals in CA that will not even consider employing a new grad from there. And also due to the fact that so many have walked out on contracts, they are also looking twice at them. And with some of the behavior that we are seeing here and on a few other forums, they are not owed a thing, they think that they are. But until they prove themselves, the are at the bottom working their way up. They are not at the top and should not compare themselves with a nurse that graduated from there twenty years ago, and had excellent skills when they started. Minimal training was required for them when they got here, definitely cannot say that now.
Sorry about the tirade, but a few set me off this morning.