Should I go for the ADN and then BSN, or go straight for BSN?

Saysfaa · Mar 13, 2010

I would not retake the art classes. I might raise my gpa by taking more classes so I had more high grades to offset the low grades, but they would be science classes. But that is for the requirements of the schools I'm looking at. They use the overall gpa only as a hurdle, once they see the gpa is over 2.5 it is not a factor, the gpa from only a short list of classes is used to figure the points I get for gpa.

The time difference between ADN and BSN depends on the schools involved. I can do it for the same amount of time.... either two years for the ADN from one school and another 12 months for the bridge to BSN at a second school.

Getting the BSN first would take 3 years at the second school or 3 1/2 years if I went to a third school.

That assumes I get in to each program the first time I apply. I do not know how to tell which programs you are more likely to get into faster... it is too dependent on exactly what each school looks at and how well they mesh with your circumstances.

I also can't tell which path would prepare you better. Sometimes an ADN program incorporates more clinical time. I think that would be better for you as a CRNA or NP. However, some BSN programs have more clinical time than some ADN programs, so it it is something to look at but not to make a blanket statement about. I'm not sure how much that matters because I think you need some years of work experience before starting the advanced programs.

Meriwhen, ASN, BSN, MSN, RN · Mar 13, 2010

I went for the ADN first, and I have to say I'm happy I did. It was faster (very few programs are a faster route to licensure than an ADN) and I was able to start working that much sooner. Also, financially the BSN would have required heavy loans, whereas I paid for the ADN in full--it took a lot of budgeting, but I have no school debt.

I'm finding school (RN-BSN program) a lot more enjoyable this time around. I'm licensed and working,so I have nursing experience and perspective I'm bringing to my BSN courses, so they seem easier to me. Since the BSN is part-time, I'm not up to my eyeballs in studying and actually have a life :) The best part of it though is having less pressure on me: sure, I want to do well...but should I fail out of the BSN program it won't matter--I'm still an RN. That makes a world of difference from being in the ADN program where I knew all it'd take would be a couple of missteps, and my entire nursing career could be over before it even began.

Time wise, doing the bridge is taking longer than if I just went for the BSN...but I am choosing to do the RN-BSN part-time, so I'm fine with that.

I don't know which type of school is easier to get into or which offers better clinical experiences...as Saysfaa mentioned, you need to look at the individual schools and not go by blanket statements.

I also wouldn't redo the art classes--nursing programs aren't going to care as much as about them as they will about science grades. Also, many (not all) NS programs will also look only at the grades of the prerequisite classes when considering your admission application. Focus on getting good grades on those: an A in A&P will impress the NS more than an A in graphic design.

caliotter3 · Mar 13, 2010

Typically it has been easier to get into BSN programs than ASN programs. With the stiff competition for all RN programs lately, it probably does not matter which you apply to, competition will be stiff. Apply to all programs near you and go with the one that accepts you first.

trae55 · Mar 13, 2010

Check the requirements for each program and see what fits you best.

For example, because I took a&p a very long time ago I would have to take it over again for the BSN program compared to a refresher class for the ADN program. Also, I knew I would definitely get into the ADN program because it's based on a point system compared to the BSN program that doesn't have a set criteria. They do interviews, essays, etc. in addition to the entrance exam and gpas. I wish I could have applied for both, but I needed an extra semester to finish the BSN prereqs.

Cost and proximity were the biggest factors for me. I live minutes from the community college and it was half the cost.

If you are just starting out with your prereqs, one thing to consider is there anything that can keep you from graduating (marriage, kids, finances)? If there is, you might want to take the fastest route. If there isn't, the BSN program would be great to do and get school over with all at once.

Streamline2010 · Mar 13, 2010

If you can get the ADRN in less than 2 years definitely do it and go to BSRN later. But if it's going to take you 3 more yrs to do ADRN, then forget that and do BSRN now. Many hospitals seem to only want to hire BSRN fresh-outs now, unless you are living an an area with a shortage. If you want BSRN for sure try to get that while you're still in the study / school mode. The admissions hoops start to look pretty darned ridiculous to a two-degreed adult like me who already has years of science & technology career behind me. I am pretty well fed up with all the carp I have to go through with each school just to get started with the RN app procedure. And how it's totally different at each nursing program. Well past time for a national standard admissions test and a national standard for what constitutes a "qualified applicant."

Saysfaa · Mar 14, 2010

I like the mishmash of criteria rather than a national standard. There is more than one reasonable way to determine who makes a good candidate. Some favor one kind of person more than another. It is good that there is a way for both(all) kinds of good candidates to find a place.

stevenfmurray, BSN, EMT-P · Mar 14, 2010

Some great advice has been given in this discussion. Like previous posters have said, look at the time and financial requirements of each program. For example, the BSN program near me is an accelerated one that is 14 months long start to finish. The ADN program is a full 2 years. The BSN school is a selective program meaning GPA analysis, essays for application, interview, etc. I was able to get into the ADN program by showing evidence of a previous bachelor's degree only. In addition, the ADN program is dirt cheap compared to the BSN program.

Most ADN-BSN programs can be completed in 1-2 years, depending on how much of a course load you're willing to take.

I'm basically in the same boat as you; crappy GPA in my business degree (fresh out of high school at the time) and now am working toward CRNA. The thing to remember is that there's no short and easy way to do it. Good luck!

iPatch · Mar 14, 2010

I will be starting my BSN program this spring. Like you, I thought about the costs and benefits of a four-year degree compared to an ADN.

In my case, a BSN makes more sense. I already have a degree from another field, and my nursing program allows me to graduate in less than two years. I am also exploring other career areas in nursing, such as NA, just like you. This is why I am compelled to respond to your thread.

I can assume the majority knows a BSN with an excellent academic standing is a basic qualification for NA (or NP, for that matter). However, that is not to say an ADN can't help you become one step closer to your end goal of becoming a CRNA or NP.

The advantage of an ADN is obvious: It's shorter and more cost-effective compared to most BSN programs. Additionally, you can have a job as an RN in an ICU in roughly two years while inching your way toward a BSN. You can also get your CCRN certification while working in the ICU. In essence, your job-related skills and certification make you an ideal candidate for NA school. You can also start applying for NA school before you are finished with your BSN degree in some cases.

However, I am not so sure about your assessment that it's easier to get into an ADN program compared to a BSN. Competition for both programs is keen, and more than 60 percent of qualified applicants in some states are turned away. I can assume acceptance into NA school won't be easier. From what I gather, you have to maintain all A's with rare B's to even be considered in most NA schools.

With all that being said, my suggestion to you is simple. Make yourself available to either degree program. Work hard, commit yourself, and be deliberate by not rushing things.

Eriseth · Mar 17, 2010

While I don't know what your financial situation is, I'd have to say that ADN has been the way to go for me. I'm very hesitant to take out loans and will not have to unless I decide to pursue a master's level education and maybe not even then.

After I complete my ADN, pass boards and get a job, I plan on enrolling into the ADN to BSN bridge that the University here offers. It's almost completely online and I will be eligible for tuition reimbursement through my hospital.

This way also allows me to be flexible and if things don't work out and I decide not to finish my BSN right away, I can always put it off to later when the time is right.

This may not be the most time efficient way to get my BSN but it definitely will be the most financially sound way. I've heard of people on these boards coming out of nursing school with $30,000+ in debt and not able to get jobs and I cringe. Thankfully the job market here isn't as saturated as it is elsewhere, as there are only a few programs that churn out new grads in this area:)

kf_az82 · Mar 17, 2010

I agree with eriseth. Be fiscally responsible and get your ADN through a local community college. When you pass your NCLEX and are hired somewhere, let your employer help you get your BSN through tuition reimbursement or whatever programs they might offer. If you work 3 12's in a hospital, you have 4 days a week available for school/ studying ect.... Most employers are happy to pay for a higher education or at least assist you with it. You might as well get your associates and start working to get the experience under your belt. Best of luck.