sequester...huh?

pmabraham, BSN, RN · Mar 15, 2013

Good day:

When you state, "most of us" who is "most of us?"

49% voted against Obama; and the 51% that voted for him includes voter fraud of people voting multiple times.

As I've shared, my brother in law has been in a number of "welfare" homes where they live on tax payer dollars having great cars, large screen TV's, etc. vs. getting drug tested and told to work for their moeny.

The sequester is 2% of the proposed spending; and less than the tax increase received from the fiscal cliff.

President Obama has caused harm to the poor and middle class with increased taxation against those that work, hand outs encouraging others to not work, et al.

Thank you.

lkulmann · Mar 15, 2013

The welfare system is in the situation its in because of the government. Are you trying to say that the uneducated, the poor and disadvantaged population outsmarted the government of taxpayer money. The State government has been encouraging the welfare recipients to get ON the system assistance programs so they can get more federal money to support them. Unfortunately the money reaches the poor after its been dipped in many times before it even reaches the public. The rich are making money off the poor entitlements programs. Now that they're all fat cats they don't care or need the entitlement double dipping anymore so they'll slash those programs rather than give up all the stolen money. I'm not sure but at one point every time someone swiped the food stamps debit card jp Morgan took $1 dollar to process the transaction. One Dollar per swipe! The poor are making the rich richer by design.

lkulmann · Mar 16, 2013

Its time for the multibzillionaires to give it back in the name of paying their fair share of taxes and closing the loopholes...ha! They're having little temper tantrums and hissy fits not wanting to play nice in the sandbox....poor president Obama is having to act like the school monitor on the playground making the kids play fair....ugh ..

lkulmann · Mar 16, 2013

If the entitlement programs are cut in my State, there are going to be an increase in hospital ER visits, hospitalizations, homelessness and more. Luckily we have Obamacare in full force in 2014. I think healthcare is going to be affected. SNF/ECF and Home Health Care needs are going to drastically change. IDK but I'm thinking Healthcare/Nursing is going to take a big hit through all of the cuts in public service.

tewdles, RN · Mar 16, 2013

Good Day,

The subject of voter fraud is another TOPIC altogether.

We are all aware that there is a myth of fraud that is causing anxiety among conservatives...there simply is no actual evidence to support it in the factual world.

The sequester takes cuts without regard for harm.

It is fine for you to support the notion.

Your political bias is evident and colors all elements of your wandering discussion of the evils of Obama.

Perhaps we could stay on topic, okay?

Thank you.

uRNmyway, ASN, RN · Mar 17, 2013

i just have two comments based on this last page. Tewdles, you mention the poor and middle classed ended up in these bad situations because of poor governance. I completely agree with you on that. Very poor governance indeed, from the states, from the White House, and from the Republican and Democratic children who would rather argue and point fingers than play nice and get something done for those who put them there.

I would also like to add that those comments about so-called 'fair share' just drive me nuts. I agree with eliminating loopholes. But if you do some very simle math, if John Doe makes 50 000$ per year and Jack Johnson makes 500 000$ per year, and they both pay, say, 20% tax with no loopholes, Jack still pays a crap load more than John. 10 000 vs 100 000? I don't know about you, but myt mom taught me that fair means the same, not something subjective depending on who it is supposed to be fair to....

tewdles, RN · Mar 17, 2013

I don't recall posting about a "fair" tax.

I am more conservative in this regard favoring a return to historical tax rates for the wealthiest...especially in time of war.

Taxing the rich is good for the economy | Marketplace.org

"...Taxes were far higher on top incomes in the three decades after World War II than they've been since. And the distribution of income was far more equal. Yet the American economy grew faster in those years than it's grown since tax rates were slashed in 1981."

uRNmyway, ASN, RN · Mar 17, 2013

I know you didn't mention a fair tax, the OP did. My post just addressed your comment then OP's. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

lkulmann · Mar 17, 2013

Fair meaning reasonable. For example, it would not be reasonable or fair to give an infant the same portion of food as a 260lb man.

uRNmyway, ASN, RN · Mar 17, 2013

Sure, because that might kill the infant. But if this infant worked his butt off, took tons of risks to cultivate all this food, then he can do with it as he pleases IMO, so long as its not to harm others. But that is the incentive to hard work, is to have more. More knowledge, more money, more opportunities for advancement. If I work harder than my neighbor but we end up with the same paycheck, I am just going to slack off and lose any ambition I might have.

LadyFree28, BSN, LPN, RN · Mar 17, 2013

Sure because that might kill the infant. But if this infant worked his butt off, took tons of risks to cultivate all this food, then he can do with it as he pleases IMO, so long as its not to harm others. But that is the incentive to hard work, is to have more. More knowledge, more money, more opportunities for advancement. If I work harder than my neighbor but we end up with the same paycheck, I am just going to slack off and lose any ambition I might have.[/quote']
^however, there are people in this country that have the education and STILL have to work 2-3 jobs, and work HARD, and STILL are a step away from homelessness...that is not fair, IMHO...
There are sectors in our country that make what someone makes in an year, they make in a few minutes...it wasn't like that 30 years ago...people who were well (rich-wealthy) were making more, but the working class made more as well. You were comfortable. Then slowly, less oversight, then jobs were eliminated, food and has increased, the rich got richer, while people who work, do the right things, did everything right, started losing their money, through the technology bust in the early 90s, where nursing was last hit...then the economy became balanced again.
I remember starting out as a 20 y.o. working in a community ER. there was time and 1/2 after working 8 hrs for ALL, income was good in my area, you could leave a job and find another one. Then came the housing bubble that got out of control (banking deregulation had been virtually eliminated...because the economy was doing so well, it became nonexistent), because people did have more money, and people were able to get homes, and rich banks tapped into riskier people, as well as people who wanted to get rich off of real estate, which affected every sector; however people focus on housing and "irresponsible people", however the bulk of irresponsibility were people who were trying to "flip" houses and make money, which were the banks...they invested people's retirement into that money as well...mid level businesses invested in a portion or all of their money as well.
Now you have food, gas, rent up, businesses acquired by richer business, people out of work. 100,000+ jobs were being eliminated in the mid 2000s, sometimes up to 200,000-500,000. People were and are still stuck from this mess. While the people who cause this mess still lost, but were able to recover because they control the rates on the free market, making the rest of us who desire to rebound difficult. That is NOT fair, nor reasonable.

pmabraham, BSN, RN · Mar 18, 2013

Good day:

If you take 10% of the highest among the rich, they already pay 70% of the taxes -- far more than their fair share.

One of the reasons I appreciate Dr. Ben Carson is that his position on taxes is that everyone pay the same %; and that it is not about hurting one group of people or another group.

There are currently reports of massive abuse of the Obama phone program (some getting as many as 15 phones per person), welfare, and so on.

During the sequestration, the government continues to grow; and while President Obama personally cut White House Tours, student tuition reimbursement to our military, he still has his dog walker earning over $100,000 per year.

The current administration picks and chooses who has a chance to win vs. letting skills and real needs speak for themselves.

Wealth redistribution doesn't work. The people who are working and having their money stolen from them (i.e. taxes) to go for those who don't work (it is not entitlements -- welfare, food stamps, Obama phones, government paid contraceptives -- are hand outs) eventually figure it out... and quit working so they too can go on the system. Eventually you don't have enough working to support those who are trying to get into the hand out system.

Thank you.