Seneca RPN - Clinical 520

GBC_Student, BSN, RN · Jul 3, 2019

George Brown had one when I finished the rpn back in 2013. You had to get 60%. Most people failed it the first time.

Khow89 · Jul 3, 2019

25% is pretty extreme. From what I understand was that their part time program had issues not the full time.

Have you written the exam? What did you find difficult about the exam if you did?

CURLYKATE · Jul 4, 2019

HI, I am going to have to ask where you got this information from? the CNO report states Seneca had 164 people write and pass a first attempt with a pass rate on first attempts at 94.5%

Meaning more then 25% of the students had to pass the in-house testing to move on to the NCLEX exam I would say.

I was told by the CNO and Seneca that it was the part-time program and the full-time was fine. They said they did make a few changes to their program but the CNO has to approve it and the difficulty of the courses taught as far as I know. They were very open about the issues they had and found the part time students were cheating on tests and such and got really high marks in school but when going to write the NCLEX they failed horribly which caused the CNO to look into the matter. Perhaps you are caught in the middle of the fixing process?

I believe the only time you have to repeat a clinical is if you failed it, not because of failing a written test - that is what I was told from the program admin at Seneca during open house.

Xyrodon · Jul 4, 2019

Interesting what you have been told. The report you have of 164, is that from the combined part time and full time or just the part time?

My report comes from friends of mine who did their final consolidation in Summer of 2018, Fall of 2018 and Winter of 2019. They told me only a few people passed and MOST had to repeat the clinical (if you failed the written you repeat clinical and the test).

The full time program is more than fine, they're amongst the highest to pass the CNO exam. How were the part timers cheating? I'm curious, they're mostly older students, I am not sure how they can pull that off.

From what it seems, from past graduates of the program, due to the low pass rate of the part timers, the final exit exam for the consolidation is damn near impossible. Which means if you can pass it, you can pass anything, literally. However, many students, even ones I knew with stellar high GPA's (3.8 or higher) failed their clinical 520 exam miserably.

Khow89 · Jul 4, 2019

You should ask them what was hard about the exam in order to better prepare yourself. The exam is not going to change but you can change how well you do on the exam.

CURLYKATE · Jul 4, 2019

Khow89 did you find this when you did the program?

I didn't ask how they cheated and did not think it polite to ask such a question. I was told they have a very high pass rate even from when the 2018 report was calculated. From what the document says (found on CNO website) the 164 is only full-time students and ones that passed on their first try.

I personally am not put off by having to score over 75% on a nursing exam after going to school for 5 terms. I mean if you don't know it by then, are you really a good candidate to be a nurse. I personally would like a nice that did well in school and got over 80% treating me, but hey that is just my opinion.

Remember we are saving lives...we need to know what we are doing without question.

When do you start the program?

Sunshine_AB · Jul 4, 2019

A high GPA from the part time program is nothing because of the cheating involved. So stop posting high GPA in the part time program when I am sure without a doubt those students cheated. Some recommendations forget about the GPA issue and focus on what it is you are not getting or understanding to pass the test.

Xyrodon · Jul 4, 2019

How do you know that they're cheating? I always see your annoying posts everywhere about Seneca. Do you work for the school or CNO?

And if there is cheating, how are these people cheating? I've heard many students are cheating at Centennial because the profs their are such jerks.

Khow89 · Jul 4, 2019

@CURLYKATE - No, everyone didn't have any issue with the exams or quizzes in the program. If anything it was the predictor test that you had to get 70 or 75 percent or percentile that people were having issues with. For that test, roughly 25% didn't make that mark.

Okay let's just all take a step back lol

Xyrodon - How have you been studying for the exam?

Xyrodon · Jul 4, 2019

I did an NCLEX PN prep course, and went through many CPNRE books, videos and quizzes. NCLEX I found the most challenging. The predictor test wasn't really based on knowledge. Personally, I found the CPNRE predictor test course a joke compared to Seneca's. I got 87% on the predictor test, which I think is a scam.

It's not really about studying or knowledge, the questions are worded in a such a way that makes it arduous to decipher the answer. I suppose this is the reason why I find the test unfair. Studying content doesn't really make a difference, the questions are just weird.

For example, "Which of these is most important for health? Diet or exercise?"

You can pick either one, which is correct since both are equally. Furthermore, you can use any rationale to justify your answer. The Seneca test is like this.

Khow89 · Jul 4, 2019

Yes but those questions are very common in nursing. Whether you're working or you're pursuing more education such as bridging, they always present you with a problem and a couple of correct answers but one might be a higher priority then the rest. In regarding to your example, yes they are both important but diet would be more important. Poor diet can lead to type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, poor nutrition, etc. And when treating diseases such as diabetes, stroke, heart attacks etc., the plan of care emphasizes a lot on diet. Maybe when studying, think of the rationales and why one might be more important than the other.