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I've been doing a LOT of reading up about the whole job description of a CNA, along w/ a lot of forums w/ people's opinions and stories. Is it just me or does it seem like when this question is asked, "Do you like being a CNA?" Everyone basically just moans and gripes about it?

For example, "Being a CNA sucks!" or "All you do is the grunt work, not enough pay, and you get hit/yelled at/pinched/kicked all day!" Of course, CNA's are going to do the grunt work... It's called starting from the bottom and working your way up. It would be like in any workplace if you're starting at the bottom. It'll usually never be what you WANT to do.

It just makes me kind of sad to hear some of the things that people say about their job and especially about what they have to do. I mean, of course no one likes to pick up feces/vomit/whatever! but from what I've read these people are making it sound like they didn't even know the job description before they started.

I've done a LOTTTT of research and I already am expecting to be overworked, stressed, changing out a lot of bedpans, and dealing with tempermental residents. All I think about is... How would I feel if I was in that position? I would be completely humiliated if I couldn't make it to the bathroom on time and had to call someone in to clean up my mess or how awkward it would be to have someone bathe ME because I can't. And yes I do know there is going to be those residents who, well, milk it out knowing there's someone who's always there to do anything for you. However then you got just the people who honestly don't even want to be helped let alone touched.

Anyway about the low pay, I live in Oregon and the average pay rate for a CNA is 12-15 dollars/hour. Which is definitely not bad over here! I just feel like I ALWAYS see people who HATE this job and have a lot to complain about. I wanna hear some positive things people! There has to be SOME people who enjoy being a CNA and those 'little things' that make their day just an itty bit better.

Please reply if you DO love being a CNA & why!

-People who don't enjoy it, don't reply.

My first job at age 16 was a CNA at a LTC facility. I loved it! Loved it then and loved it up until I stopped doing it and became a nurse.

Don't get me wrong, I had my days when I thought to myself..why the hell am I killing myself doing this job...but the good days outweighted the bad.

Now, I'm a nurse in LTC *by choice* I love geriatrics! And I value my good CNA's. They are my eyes and ears and are usually the first to notice something "off" about a resident, like Sue said.

Its not "above" me to get down and dirty. I will lift, transfer, toilet, bath, position with the best of them. And in all honesty, at times, I miss being the CNA. I got to spend much more time with my residents in that capasity than I do as a nurse. I may have a different set of letters after my name now, but I will always be a CNA at heart.

IMHO, those who are always complaining all the time about how much they hate being a CNA..really should find another job. its time to move on. It doesn't get better..so find a job/career that you find pleasure in. There are so many career choices out there, there has to be one that can bring you happiness. (and thats not meant as a dig at those of you who hate CNA work..)

Specializes in LTC.
they look at me and say "Oh so you get to wipe butt all day!", and then they smile at me!

That pi$$ed me off, b/c I know thats not all I do, its a small part.

Actually it's a pretty big part.

Actually it's a pretty big part.

Not really!! :icon_roll It might be for those who really try to avoid this part of the job.

It's easy to preach if you haven't been there.

I've gotten stronger as a CNA, both physically and emotionally. I've always been quiet and meek so starting off and dealing with the workload and other CNAs' snotty attitudes was really tough for me, but I made it, and now I think I'm much more assertive even though I'm still really a shy person. So there you have it. I'm totally content with my job, but I'm still going to complain if I want and I think that's okay!

Hi FuzzyWuzzy,

I'm having questions about being a "shy" person as well right now. I'm in my second week of my CNA course and someone mentioned today while we were practicing skills that I was going to have a really hard time with the state test because of how nervous I get. She was only mentioning this as a side note and wasn't trying to be malicious or catty.

How did you get over being shy while interacting with patients and with the test? I am shy at first but am truly not a "meek" person in the end. I guess it takes me awhile to warm up to people and trust them before opening up.

I'm getting nervous about this fact though because of the politics in a lot of LTC's or hospitals and not being part of a clique. I love cracking jokes and having fun but I feel like I already don't fit into the clique that has formed in my CNA class. It's interesting how quickly people paired off in this school and rejected anyone different from themselves.

We have tests everyday from our textbook and I've been getting a 100% or in the high 90's every day, everybody wants to know what everyone's score is so people somewhat shun me after the tests. Half of the people are cheating during the tests everyday and it's pretty ridiculous. The only reason I'm getting these scores is because I'm studying and doing two + hours of homework every night! I don't get it... but anyways.

I know this happens in every workplace whether it's an office setting or somewhere else but I'm just wondering how you overcame the challenges with co-workers and how you prepared for the exam for being outgoing and NOT nervous while demonstrating your skills.

:)

Thanks ahead for any advice!

Specializes in LTC.
Not really!! :icon_roll It might be for those who really try to avoid this part of the job.

Maybe you don't work in a nursing home, but 75% of my day is toileting. The rest of my duties get squeezed in around potty trips.

Specializes in ICU.

Here to agree with FuzzyWuzzy. Even working the majority of my time in a hospital I spent a LOT of time assisting to the BSC/bedpan and cleaning people up. And this was just a medium-acuity cardiac obs floor! My time in a nursing home was all toileting and feeding...the CNAs didn't even do vitals because they didn't have time. And we had 1 CNA a shift that did all the baths/showers for that day on the whole wing, since there wasn't enough time for someone to do all the daily care on their assignment AND shower/bathe.

Specializes in LTC.
It's easy to preach if you haven't been there.

I've gotten stronger as a CNA, both physically and emotionally. I've always been quiet and meek so starting off and dealing with the workload and other CNAs' snotty attitudes was really tough for me, but I made it, and now I think I'm much more assertive even though I'm still really a shy person. So there you have it. I'm totally content with my job, but I'm still going to complain if I want and I think that's okay!

Hi FuzzyWuzzy,

I'm having questions about being a "shy" person as well right now. I'm in my second week of my CNA course and someone mentioned today while we were practicing skills that I was going to have a really hard time with the state test because of how nervous I get. She was only mentioning this as a side note and wasn't trying to be malicious or catty.

How did you get over being shy while interacting with patients and with the test? I am shy at first but am truly not a "meek" person in the end. I guess it takes me awhile to warm up to people and trust them before opening up.

I'm getting nervous about this fact though because of the politics in a lot of LTC's or hospitals and not being part of a clique. I love cracking jokes and having fun but I feel like I already don't fit into the clique that has formed in my CNA class. It's interesting how quickly people paired off in this school and rejected anyone different from themselves.

We have tests everyday from our textbook and I've been getting a 100% or in the high 90's every day, everybody wants to know what everyone's score is so people somewhat shun me after the tests. Half of the people are cheating during the tests everyday and it's pretty ridiculous. The only reason I'm getting these scores is because I'm studying and doing two + hours of homework every night! I don't get it... but anyways.

I know this happens in every workplace whether it's an office setting or somewhere else but I'm just wondering how you overcame the challenges with co-workers and how you prepared for the exam for being outgoing and NOT nervous while demonstrating your skills.

:)

Thanks ahead for any advice!

Well I have to say that my skills test wasn't bad because one of my instructors was actually one of the people that administers the tests... so I knew her. And we tested in the same facility that I did my clinicals in so I knew the test subjects too!

The coworker thing was tough. I felt so awkward being the new girl, and when I feel self-conscious I bumble around and make things worse. Honestly I just kept showing up for the paycheck, thinking I would keep dealing with it until I got fired. Then finally they hired another new girl and as soon as I felt like the focus was off me I calmed the heck down and by the time this girl was done training I was sooooo much better. Now we're each other's favorite coworkers and everyone loves us because we're so easy to work with and we aren't lazy.

You really just have to remind yourself not to take things personally. If you're like me, you're very sensitive to other people's emotions and you think everyone hates you. They don't. It's all in your head. Tell yourself that. Even if they don't like you at first, chances are they'll get over it. If someone isn't friendly with you, remind yourself that there will be new girls and when there are, YOU can be the one person that's nice to them. People do get used to you even if you never end up joining a clique. And you'll find people to click with. There are a lot of personalities in both the residents and your coworkers. One person's, "She's so bossy and abrasive" is another's "She knows what she's doing." Someone might think you're "weird and boring" while another might find it refreshing to work with someone "so calm and laid back."

For me I have to try NOT to seem cold and/or stupid around new patients or residents I haven't worked with before. That's something that you have to get used to as well. It's easier if you try and adopt a "perky, professional receptionist" persona. When we get new admits I force myself to put a fake smile on and I have the same set of lines I use that I've picked up from watching other CNAs do admits. If you don't know what to say, talk your way through your care, just like they teach you in school. I mean obviously the book says you should always do that anyway but most of the residents know exactly what you're going to do next and would prefer to talk about something else. But until you get used to each other it's a good filler to say, "Now I'm going to wash under your arms" etc etc. If you have kids or a dog, talk about something cute they did. The residents eat that up.

It's easier if you try and adopt a "perky, professional receptionist" persona. When we get new admits I force myself to put a fake smile on and I have the same set of lines I use that I've picked up from watching other CNAs do admits. If you don't know what to say, talk your way through your care, just like they teach you in school. I mean obviously the book says you should always do that anyway but most of the residents know exactly what you're going to do next and would prefer to talk about something else. But until you get used to each other it's a good filler to say, "Now I'm going to wash under your arms" etc etc. If you have kids or a dog, talk about something cute they did. The residents eat that up.

Good advice.

The biggest things for any new nursing home residents are grief at losing their life, home, and independence. If they are alert they are humiliated at their inability to control their bladder and bowels. It's one of the first things we are trained to do as toddlers - to control them.

And they are frightened and sometimes angry.

Always remember that they are adults, not extremely big children, and try to be as matter of fact as possible about their "accidents" and need for help. "Oh, that's okay. You don't feel too well and sometimes it happens." Calm and comfortable and accepting. And respectful. I always start out with Mr or Mrs until I am invited to use their first names. I did it for weeks on this job and finally they ALL told me to call them whatever their first name was. But they were able to give me the gift of informality, and I had given them the gift of dignity and respect.

I love my old, incontinent folks.

Specializes in LTC.
Here to agree with FuzzyWuzzy. Even working the majority of my time in a hospital I spent a LOT of time assisting to the BSC/bedpan and cleaning people up. And this was just a medium-acuity cardiac obs floor! My time in a nursing home was all toileting and feeding...the CNAs didn't even do vitals because they didn't have time. And we had 1 CNA a shift that did all the baths/showers for that day on the whole wing, since there wasn't enough time for someone to do all the daily care on their assignment AND shower/bathe.

Yeah. For any students who think they're going to school to do more than just wipe butts, this was my day:

Wash and dress resident #1, who is wet. Hoyer her out of bed with partner. Wash and dress resident #6, also wet. Run and check #4... dry! Wash and dress #2 in bed; leave her there because she's a 2-assist and go rinse the diarrhea out of her nightshirt. Meet up with partner and get almost everyone else on both assignments out of bed for breakfast (quickly washing and dressing #7 and 8 while you're at it). 9 more people are wet. 3 of the people who can eat breakfast in bed wanted the bed pan and one of them pooped as soon as I rolled her over and it was messy. Pass trays, feed, collect trays, reposition the ppl in bed as you go along.

#5 is soaked again. Get help getting her OOB and on the toilet. Wash and dress her and yes, wipe her butt because she pooped. Help your partner get her roommate hoyered OOB and spray out the poopy bedpan. Get #4 up and wash her on the toilet. Hoyer #1 back to bed and change her. Run and change #7 again. Realize you need to toilet #2 again, but she's at Rec. Help your partner toilet someone who misses the toilet and pees all over the floor. Check #8; thank god she's dry. Wash and dress #3 in bed while she's on the bedpan. You and your partner hoyer her OOB. Help your partner finish her assignment while dragging vitals machine, water pitchers, and supplement drinks down the hall with you and flying through them all. Frantically run around and get the last few people up while also toileting as many people as you can before lunch. Transport to dining room, feed.

Toilet the same 15 people one last time. Walk all your ambulatory people and lay them down for naps/position changes as you go. Pretty much everyone is wet from drinking at lunch. Empty foleys, do chores and go home.

That's a lot of toileting. The whole focus of the day is chasing your own tail trying to keep people from sitting in their pee for too long. And today wasn't even bad. We had a shower aide and I know I left some poops and toilet trips out. Sometimes half the wing will get laxatives and suppositories right before we come in, and then your BM list is a mile long.

You really just have to remind yourself not to take things personally. If you're like me, you're very sensitive to other people's emotions and you think everyone hates you. They don't. It's all in your head. Tell yourself that. Even if they don't like you at first, chances are they'll get over it. If someone isn't friendly with you, remind yourself that there will be new girls and when there are, YOU can be the one person that's nice to them. People do get used to you even if you never end up joining a clique. And you'll find people to click with. There are a lot of personalities in both the residents and your coworkers. One person's, "She's so bossy and abrasive" is another's "She knows what she's doing." Someone might think you're "weird and boring" while another might find it refreshing to work with someone "so calm and laid back."

For me I have to try NOT to seem cold and/or stupid around new patients or residents I haven't worked with before. That's something that you have to get used to as well. It's easier if you try and adopt a "perky, professional receptionist" persona. When we get new admits I force myself to put a fake smile on and I have the same set of lines I use that I've picked up from watching other CNAs do admits. If you don't know what to say, talk your way through your care, just like they teach you in school.

Thanks for the quick reply Fuzzywuzzy,

Not taking things personally has always been a big thing in a lot of my jobs so I should work through this now! :)

That's why I commented so quickly after my classmate mentioned that I was shy and it wasn't out of cattiness, I know she mentioned that to help me. I think about this stuff WAY to much... and I know if I'm going to survive as a nurse I can't think about these comments at ALL.

I don't feel like people 'hate' me but they have preconceived notions of certain types of people and it bothers me sometimes. Especially since all of us are going to be working with a HUGE range of patients (I live in NYC) and everyone bands together from certain backgrounds etc. That's what is weird to me, I guess it's not weird.. but harder to overcome. I've never been like that, I guess I'm from a somewhat hippy background and in NYC it doesn't mesh sometimes but I'm a mix between the two of being here for the last 11 years and my other background. I guess I'm stuck on my CNA class right now and you are speaking of the practice of being employed as a CNA.

All in all you have great advice on how to deal with people, I'm a people person at the end of it, that's why I'm going into this profession.... for the RANGE of people. I'm always the person to be the most outgoing and helpful in the majority of situations I come across when it has to do with the persons well being and truly caring about them.

I'm going to have to make some adjustments to my interaction with people which will benefit my life as a whole (not involved in working) and I'm learning a lot. Your comments are funny because I get the "It's great to work with someone who's laid back but confident and honest" and the boring part comes in because you don't talk about yourself for hours on end. I'm not going to go off about that because that is a plus on the nursing side of things of talking with the patients etc.

Thanks for the advice and I hope I can make it through to the end.

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Hey I know what your saying AmandaS! I hear to much negative stuff myself. I think for many people, its easier to B!@%H then to rave about positive things. Im glad you posted this!

What really gets me upset is when people think all you is wipe butt, like we dont do anything else. My boyfriends side of the family came in yesterday and I was the discussion b/c Im currently in school, they ask "OH yeah? What for?" and when I say Nursing Assistant they look at me and say "Oh so you get to wipe butt all day!", and then they smile at me!

That pi$$ed me off, b/c I know thats not all I do, its a small part.

SO then When I politely say bye across the parking lot to go to my clincals they say yell out "Bye, have fun wiping a$$"

GRRRRRRRR:banghead:

OMG! how inappropiate! Errrghhhh... yeah well right now I'm in CNA training class and oh how i LOVE it! Our instructor does such a good job at telling us just how important CNA's are to the team. Yes we do wipe butt. Yes we do clean up vomit. Yes it is part of the job description. No thats not what our job is all about though. Its just that small part in taking care of other people. What do they expect? When people age... they just magically stop urinating & pooping? Its really frustrating anyway I love my class and I'm really happy about the job decisions Ive made for myself. :)

I think being a CNA is very rewarding. Don't get me wrong-it's very irritating, but I feel like I can make a difference in people's lives. I've seen residents be left sitting for hours in urine/feces/vomit, not being fed, and just plain out being treated like crap. I know that many facilities are majorly understaffed, but that's rediculous.

I'm going to school now for my BSN, but I still feel that being a CNA is rewarding. I just hope that starting out at the bottom of the chain will help me be a better RN. I'm going to do my best to be sure that people are taken care of and treated with respect. Being a CNA places you in some undesirable situations, kills your back, and completely stresses you out-but I honestly think it's worth it.

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