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Lawrence, Anna, and I moderate this forum; we do not set US immigration rules and laws.

And to clear up some misinformation that many of you have with stating that the US always opens up things in a year or two are mistaken for several reasons.

Until about four years ago, all nurses coming to US via an employer sponsored petition came only on the H1-B visa; they never started the permanent residency process out of the US. This is about the same time that the US stopped using the temporary visas for nurses and began fast-tracking them for the green card per hospital request as well.

H1-B visas have been around since I became a nurse quite a few years ago, and I remember quite well working with foreign nurses at that time, and primary those from the Philippines. And I remember that there have been periods of time that H1-B visas were not issued to nurses during that time and for about five years each time due to what was happening in the US in the realm of nursing.

What we post about the retrogression is in fact what is going on now; what happened 16 months ago no longer has any bearing on what is happening in the US now, at this time. The US is not required to accept all that are submitted for the green card, they have the right to limit the number of foreigners from any one country that can get the green card per year. And when there is a dramatic increase in the number of applicants, then the chances of getting one go down.

In the past, if you attended school in the US for nursing, you had a strong chance of being able to remain here and get the coveted green card. But that is no longer the case. Requirements and the number of visas still pertain to those that wish to go thru the AOS route. The only thing that is waived is the requirement for the English exams, all other requirements remain in place.

This past summer when there were no visas available, the US got forced to accept petitions; there were more than 800,000 that were submitted when you add in spouses and children. There are only 140,000 green cards per year issued under the EB-3 category. So that makes it five years or so just under the AOS, and that does not include all that have been waiting for sometime for the green card via CP route. This is why I state over and over again, that the chances of having the AOS open up again anytime soon is going to be almost impossible. They need to get thru those that have been waiting first.

And if you stop to look at why there were so many that were submitted this summer, it is based on the fact that there have been many here under the H1-B visa, but in different professions, that just got the open window to have their I-485s submitted. And many had been waiting for three to four years for that.

In the article that I poste the other day from the AsianJournal, there was also an article on the front page about the nursing shortage and the expectation that they do not see much of one in the next ten years due to the fact that there are many more American nursing students now in programs. The push is on to train more Americans and provide jobs for them first, before anyone else.

We are only here trying to help and provide you with accurate information. It is your choice whether to use it or not. If you do not like what we are posting, then suggest that you use another source for your information.

And a big p.s. to this all: Lawrence and Anna are in other countries waiting for their processing of their visas, they are not working in the US, nor have they ever been working here. They have been doing things the legal and correct way and are waiting for their visas. There is no entitlement when it comes to getting a visa for the US. It is a privilege and that only. It is up to the US if they have a visa for you, not the other way around. And there is no guarantee that you will get a visa.

We help others here on a volunteer basis and if we did not enjoy what we were doing; trust me, we would not be here that much or even at all.

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you're doing a good thing suzanne, keep it up. we appreciate it!

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Thank you very much for this posting.

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If they are only rumors,then why bother write an explaination? You do'nt need to.

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Specializes in Med/Surg/Med-Tele/SDU/ED.
. . . an article on the front page about the nursing shortage and the expectation that they do not see much of one in the next ten years due to the fact that there are many more american nursing students now in programs. the push is on to train more americans and provide jobs for them first, before anyone else.

i concur.

where i work, you're gonna see nursing students every day, even on weekends.

production of nurses in the us is in high gear...i think the projected 632,000 filipino nurses within the next 3 years are going to wake up to a harsh reality after graduation.

btw, they stepped over the shortage of nursing teachers by having the regular staff nurses do the actual teaching of clinicals to the student nurses. thus they only need 1 clinical instructor in 1 hospital, while the nursing students are farmed out to the regular nursing staff.

makes the work a lot more time-consuming for the staff nurse, as you have to explain the nitty-gritty to the students...and you'll sometimes meet the occasional student who's going to question your real world practice with his/her textbook nursing knowledge.

and they don't pay the staff nurse for taking on this teaching job...which is assigned, but which they stress is strictly "voluntary."

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And with just came out from US Immigration with the new dates of what is being worked on right now:

Approval of the I-140 must be done before they will look at the I-485, just the way that things are done. And just like the CP procedures, the I-140 needs approval before they will do anything with the DS-230.

They may be processing the I-485s from this summer, but if one notices that I-140s that are being worked on are from April, 2007 and this is what nurses use as their first petition.

Other professions also have the I-485, meaning that this is not applying to the nurses that got in this summer with the petition.

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Specializes in Medical-Surgical.
If they are only rumors,then why bother write an explaination? You do'nt need to.

Because people believe in rumors and to them it is the truth. A lot of nurses were waylaid in their plans to go to the USA because they were not well informed or in some cases relied on rumors.

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There is much false information that keeps popping up and this is a place to put it to rest. Anyone is free to read here and if they do not wish to, then they do not have to. Simple as that.

We have gotten tired of people being lied to by agencies and even attorneys with false information. For those of you that wish to participate in this thread, please do so. And for those of you that have nothing to offer, please refrain from posting here.

This Bulletin Board is actually privately owned and moderated, and provides an excellent service to nurses from all over the world. There are many other forums where one can post and they are not moderated and most of the information that is found there is completely false.

I do this in my spare time because I like to help others, if you do not wish to get any help here, you do not need to remain here.

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Specializes in med/surg.

:[anb]: Well I for one think you all do a great job!! Your info has helped me countless number of times & you've put up with my silly questions to boot too!!

Like it or not what you say is true & those of us waiting patiently (or not so patiently) appreciate your honesty!

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:[anb]: Well I for one think you all do a great job!! Your info has helped me countless number of times & you've put up with my silly questions to boot too!!

Like it or not what you say is true & those of us waiting patiently (or not so patiently) appreciate your honesty!

Thanks for the very nice note, it means alot to me.:balloons:

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Specializes in Med/Surg/Ortho/HH/Radiology-Now Retired.

Feel proud of the job you do, suzanne. For you do an excellent job!

There will always be those who seek to be disagreeable and unappreciative. Not much we can do about those kind of people. :(

Just keep on doing what you do so well! (((hug)))

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Thank you.

(((((((((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))))))))) back to you as well.

It really means alot to me.

:balloons::balloons::balloons::balloons:

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